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mcar

(42,331 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:06 PM Jan 2017

Great news! The Democratic Party builds a war room to battle Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/03/the-democratic-party-builds-a-war-room-to-battle-trump/?utm_term=.14302ab8fc95

The Democratic National Committee is building a “war room” to battle President-elect Donald Trump, pressure the new Republican administration on a variety of policy matters and train a spotlight on Russia's alleged cyberattacks to influence the 2016 election.

The DNC's new communications and research operation, to be staffed by former aides to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, will be one of several efforts from across the Democratic firmament to take on Trump, including the office of Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), the Center for American Progress and American Bridge...

Key priorities for the new DNC war room will be to shine a spotlight on Trump's conflicts of interest with his business enterprises as well as on Russia's alleged interference during last year's campaign. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia hacked DNC emails, as well as the private email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, to influence the election in Trump's favor.
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Great news! The Democratic Party builds a war room to battle Trump (Original Post) mcar Jan 2017 OP
We can hope! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #1
Sounds like a good plan to me. MineralMan Jan 2017 #2
Me too mcar Jan 2017 #3
Lets hope they hire a top notch cyber security expert and train everyon involved on proper protocol. CentralMass Jan 2017 #4
Thank god. Something is better than nothing but I want to see teeth. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #5
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #11
Please stop bashing Dems. Cha Jan 2017 #50
Can we just stop with the Democrat bashing? baldguy Jan 2017 #18
Well, I'm certain the florist will bring a congratulatory gift from uncle Vlad. Snarkoleptic Jan 2017 #7
Shadow Cabinet sfwriter Jan 2017 #8
well, berksdem Jan 2017 #9
yep Locrian Jan 2017 #10
Agree... That is what we need. berksdem Jan 2017 #37
Can we agree this is a good start? mcar Jan 2017 #12
Yes, it is a great start. murielm99 Jan 2017 #15
Cold water all over this board today mcar Jan 2017 #16
You forgot to put "Bernie" brer cat Jan 2017 #65
lol Cha Jan 2017 #73
Please forgive me but... berksdem Jan 2017 #41
Amen Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #30
Has nothing to do with pleasing.... berksdem Jan 2017 #36
I don't understand... berksdem Jan 2017 #40
With all due respect, berksdem, what you posted is not constructive criticism mcar Jan 2017 #66
so.... berksdem Jan 2017 #67
Where have you seen me saying everything is fine and dandy? mcar Jan 2017 #69
My issue... berksdem Jan 2017 #70
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #13
Or understand they were cheated out of an election...But fuck that part let's blame uponit7771 Jan 2017 #25
Not saying that is not reality.... berksdem Jan 2017 #38
That's reality not a mantra, to softly ignore voter suppression gets us shit but more voter suppress uponit7771 Jan 2017 #54
And I totally agree... berksdem Jan 2017 #55
Be part of solution Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #51
I have yet to see an idea... berksdem Jan 2017 #52
Calm down... Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #56
I am very calm.... berksdem Jan 2017 #58
Great example of what I'm talking about right here: Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #60
Absolutely.... berksdem Jan 2017 #61
Totally agree with you .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #63
could not agree more! berksdem Jan 2017 #68
So what do you suggest? Who would you like to see "running the show"? George II Jan 2017 #71
Personally... berksdem Jan 2017 #72
The Russians will monitor everything that goes on there. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #14
EXACTLY!!!! .Don't understand how people are missing this part!?!?? uponit7771 Jan 2017 #26
They better make sure the war room is not bugged or documents are not hackable. kimbutgar Jan 2017 #17
Excellent start, sheshe2 Jan 2017 #19
Well of course they are. ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #20
I don't get it either mcar Jan 2017 #21
It's just odd ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #22
Yep mcar Jan 2017 #24
What gets me is that... SaschaHM Jan 2017 #23
Yeah it's fairly annoying ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #33
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #27
I have stupid question...................... turbinetree Jan 2017 #28
I don't think unelected citizens can file mcar Jan 2017 #29
Good start and gwheezie Jan 2017 #31
I just saw that 3/4 guests were GOP and Danders got more appearances than any candidate - crazy? bettyellen Jan 2017 #34
Hate to do this ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #32
DNC and podesta recived emails to change their gmail passwords, and they frankieallen Jan 2017 #43
No, these people are the very best. I'm sure they'll be watching their Cha Jan 2017 #47
I'm with you... myohmy2 Jan 2017 #64
Need NEW staff, this is HRC stuff the DMC with her supporters... 4139 Jan 2017 #35
These are experienced Democratic staffers mcar Jan 2017 #39
Jeeeze! Thank you, mcar! Cha Jan 2017 #46
IKR, they hate her so much they can't let shit go uponit7771 Jan 2017 #59
No, they don't. These people are dedicated fighters and they Cha Jan 2017 #45
I don't get so many of the replies to your op. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #42
I just knew they were doing something to battle trump.. there's Cha Jan 2017 #44
It's great news, Cha mcar Jan 2017 #57
Sounds good! Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #48
Knowing full well that it will be bugged C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #49
The reason people are bashing this idea. HassleCat Jan 2017 #53
Ironically, my new Rep is one Sanders endorsed ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #62

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berksdem

(595 posts)
9. well,
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

this is a tad late in the game IMO and it still seems it is more of the same with the aides of HRC running the show. Haven't we been beaten and kicked down enough? Not very giddy over this b/c we are Dems and we do not know how to fight for our beliefs. Sorry, not trying to be a downer but this is a blip on the radar when we need a full on nuclear sized blip.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
10. yep
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jan 2017

I'm waiting for "sternly worded memos" to start going out any day now.

That said... maybe the recent defeat has put some fire into some of them.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
15. Yes, it is a great start.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jan 2017

Thanks for posting this. The usual suspects are throwing cold water on it, but pay no attention. Most of us are happy to see this.

berksdem

(595 posts)
41. Please forgive me but...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:56 PM
Jan 2017

Not everyone is looking at this as throwing cold water. I am all for it but think the message needs to meet the intent. And I hope it does....

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
30. Amen
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jan 2017

I know that we are all still in recovery for what happened in November and, yes, the whole situation sucks (to put it mildly) but I'm getting more irritated and annoyed with the pessimism and defeatism I'm hearing a lot of on here (and elsewhere). The fact that Democrats are doing stuff and at least trying to be more aggressive than they have been in years should be looked at as a good sign IMHO.

berksdem

(595 posts)
36. Has nothing to do with pleasing....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jan 2017

me honestly. This should have been in the works a while ago. Absolutely, it is a start and I hope it is helpful.

berksdem

(595 posts)
40. I don't understand...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jan 2017

why some Dems can't take any criticism. We are all in the same boat here and maybe we need to be a bit more introspective and develop and strong and clear message. Something we are not very good of as late.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
66. With all due respect, berksdem, what you posted is not constructive criticism
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jan 2017

It's negativity and complaining about Dems. Here's your statement.

well,

this is a tad late in the game IMO and it still seems it is more of the same with the aides of HRC running the show. Haven't we been beaten and kicked down enough? Not very giddy over this b/c we are Dems and we do not know how to fight for our beliefs. Sorry, not trying to be a downer but this is a blip on the radar when we need a full on nuclear sized blip.


What is constructive about this: "late in the game," "more of the same," "beaten and kicked down," "we don't know how to fight for our beliefs." How does that help anyone be introspective? It's just running Dems down.

berksdem

(595 posts)
67. so....
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jan 2017

let me guess... we are supposed to all keep whining on this board? Hey, if that is the plan moving forward have at it but the party needs a jolt right now. How is negative to say that it was late in the game? Have we not been embarrassed by losing to the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country?

Introspective - begin with a 50 state platform. DO NOT ignore states that were thought to be in the bag. Develop a clear agenda and communicate the agenda to the American people. Have a voice and use the voice to oppose Trump and clearly articulate why this is bad for the American voters.

You act like everything is fine an dandy... I am merely calling out the issues I see in the party right now. If you don't like hearing it please just move along. Christ, we are such a party of wimps...

mcar

(42,331 posts)
69. Where have you seen me saying everything is fine and dandy?
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jan 2017

My OP is highlighting a positive move the DNC is making to deal with this nightmare.

Until this post, you didn't call out any issues - that was my point. Interesting that this post of yours says

let me guess... we are supposed to all keep whining on this board?
which is the antithesis of what I was saying.

berksdem

(595 posts)
70. My issue...
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jan 2017

is that every single time someone reads something is that is perceived as negative people have a heart attack. Folks around here were bashed similarly for telling people the election was NOT in the bag and that they were negative trolls. They were right... they were absolute right about the election.

If you would go back and read the posts I agreed this was a good move. I also believe that it should have happened a month or so ago. And maybe I am jaded to think that the same group of Dems that just got beat are running the committee.

If you want to paint rainbows and unicorns all day have fun. Keep inside the bubble and watch as our party keeps getting kicked to the curb. I mean, really, do you truly believe our party is good at getting our message out?

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berksdem

(595 posts)
38. Not saying that is not reality....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jan 2017

But to keep using that as a mantra gets us nowhere. I never once said we were not cheated.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
54. That's reality not a mantra, to softly ignore voter suppression gets us shit but more voter suppress
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jan 2017

... suppresion

berksdem

(595 posts)
55. And I totally agree...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jan 2017

with that but if more people would have voted, if more Dems would have voted it would not have mattered.

berksdem

(595 posts)
52. I have yet to see an idea...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jan 2017

On this entire post. I clearly stated this should have been in the works a while ago - idea number 1. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess... I also stated that what we need is a strong and direct message from this group - idea number 2. Not a sternly worded memo as another poster put it....

Part of the solution is the fact that our party (example is DU) that people need to stop the infighting and deal with the issue. Stop cutting otherd down bc they don't live in a bubble. That bubble is what got us here...

I work hard in my district and within my local group.... I don't need to be told to be part of the solution.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
56. Calm down...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jan 2017

I was using it as a rally call for ALL of us. I apologize if you feel offended. I know things are tough right now, but we have got to buck up and get tough. Believe me, I never thought we would be in such dire straits from a botched election again, especially like this. But, here we are. Two steps forward, three steps back...

berksdem

(595 posts)
58. I am very calm....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:40 PM
Jan 2017

No bad intent whatsoever.... And what you just posted is pretty much my entire point for heaven's sake. Get tough and call the bastards out.... Appeal to voters by clearly articulating the agenda.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
60. Great example of what I'm talking about right here:
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jan 2017

Thanks to Calls from Angry Constituents, Republicans Have Withdrawn Measure to Gut Ethics Committee




http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028427202#post21

berksdem

(595 posts)
61. Absolutely....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jan 2017

That is hat we need more of....

Seriously not trying to offend anyone. Might just be the Philadelphia in my approach.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
63. Totally agree with you ....
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jan 2017

I'm also not too hopeful on this either.

Most Dems haven's seemed to have learned HOW to fight hard enough vs thuglicans 😢 I respect and admire Pres. Obama a great deal, but constantly reaching out that olive branch to thuglicans and having them cut his hand completely OFF at the wrist these past 8 years has been so disconcerting. Which is why I was SO happy to see Pres. Obama beating thuglicans at their own game IE: Pres. Obama using the Antiquities Act of 1906, which will designate 1.35 million acres Bears Ears as a national monument (Hopefully it'll stick, but if thuglicans go after and somehow "steal" this land back, it wouldn't be the first time as we know that Native Land has been stolen from them).

Per thuglican Chaffetz:

Utah's Rep. Jason Chaffetz was very upset and called President Obama "arrogant" for using the Antiquities Act of 1906, to designate the 1.35-million-acre Bears Ears area as a national monument. Chaffetz says that he may investigate that "arrogant" Pres. Obama over this.

Like I said, Pres. Obama (With an 81 years ago assist from Democrat FDR) beat them at their OWN game and they're "angry"

Great win which will hopefully stick, but I wished that we as Dems would grow a permanent "pair."

berksdem

(595 posts)
68. could not agree more!
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jan 2017

We are soft. Do we need to resort to dirty politics like the Rethugs? Absolutely not but we need to do a hell of a lot better at getting our message across.

berksdem

(595 posts)
72. Personally...
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

I think we need someone in the mold of Warren. Someone that has the guts to call out the damned policies and willing to battle. As another post suggested maybe this loss is what the party needed. I am not against this "war room" but it needs to be a strong voice. The one part of the release that caught my eye was focusing on down-ballot which is greatly needed.

Until we have a new party chair everything is up in the air. When that person is elected I think we will see where this goes... I just hope it is exactly like what the GOPhers did to Obama. Time to fight fire with fire...

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
14. The Russians will monitor everything that goes on there.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jan 2017



And pass the info on to Trump.


He won't need an NSA any more.

ismnotwasm

(41,982 posts)
20. Well of course they are.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jan 2017

Honestly, given some of the replies here it looks like the only information people use on actual political workings is Facebook.

If somebody can't stand Democrats, why post here?

ismnotwasm

(41,982 posts)
22. It's just odd
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jan 2017

I get criticizing, but not jumping up and down on every positive post about Democrats like a spoiled brat.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
23. What gets me is that...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jan 2017

many would be over the moon if their fave just gave a speech or an interview, but when Democrats actually do something, it's treated as if it's not enough.

We went through weeks of "Why aren't democrats fighting" when they weren't taking interview after interview and now that Dems are actually using their platform, folks are finding something new to bitch about.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
28. I have stupid question......................
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jan 2017

"Key priorities for the new DNC war room will be to shine a spotlight on Trump's conflicts of interest with his business enterprises as well as on Russia's alleged interference during last year's campaign. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia hacked DNC emails, as well as the private email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, to influence the election in Trump's favor."

To shine a spot light on his business interest----------------is he or is he not going to put them in a "blind trust" ?

If not, file formal paperwork to have him impeached through this "war office", where does it say that they can or cannot do this in the Constitution or the laws of the country, that's where they should start

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
31. Good start and
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jan 2017

For God's sake start building a bench in local government, organize to confront all GOP politicians at town halls & public events, get on the sunday shows & don't let the GOP lies go unanswered,start phone & email campaigns to Congress.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
32. Hate to do this
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

but I have to agree that putting everyone who was involved with the DNC when it was hacked into the war room seems like a bad idea. Step #1: GET A CYBER SECURITY EXPERT!!!

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
43. DNC and podesta recived emails to change their gmail passwords, and they
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jan 2017

fell for it. I don't think a Cyber security expert will help if they are that stupid.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
47. No, these people are the very best. I'm sure they'll be watching their
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jan 2017

cyber security extra close.

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
64. I'm with you...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jan 2017

"...to be staffed by former aides to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign,..."

...I can hardly wait...

mcar

(42,331 posts)
39. These are experienced Democratic staffers
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jan 2017

Why should less experienced people be chosen over them? The fact that they worked their hearts out for our nominee is a plus, IMO.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
49. Knowing full well that it will be bugged
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jan 2017

Our Dems should have a little fun at Trumpazoid's expense.

They might start discussing (near the mic, please) how
an IRS insider just handed over all of Trump's taxes or
how some disgruntled Trump employee knows where
Donnie's marking powder comes from. Watch that DJT
twitterfeed explode in a paranoid rage.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
53. The reason people are bashing this idea.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

One of the problems we had was too much focus on a centralized party, lack of attention at the state and local level, too many national staffers paid to crunch numbers created from meaningless data, and so on. So the reaction from many people is, "More of the same." They might be right, although time will tell. To those complaining it's not progressive enough, maybe it's time to get in there and ensure the national party organization uses its time and energy for progressive measures. That would mean turning this "war room" idea into something useful. Or shutting it down. But maybe we should see where it goes before we get too excited.

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