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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:15 PM Jan 2017

Take a moment to fathom what just happened with that attempt to gut the House ethics office

...a flood of citizen activists put fear into the new House republican majority.


Robert Costa ?@costareports 8m8 minutes ago
Most members tell me blizzard of angry constituent calls were most impt factor in getting the House to sideline the amdt


Robert Costa @costareports
“Every left wing organization is calling my office." Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), chairman of the rules committee


Jesse Singal @jessesingal
Headline SHOULD be that there was such massive outcry that despite holding all the power they needed, GOP couldn't go through with it.


Peter Daou ?@peterdaou 16m16 minutes ago
Don't underestimate the importance that out of the 2017 gate, Dem activism stopped GOP's ethics stunt in its tracks. Trump felt the pressure


The Hill ?@thehill 6m6 minutes ago
Google searches for "who is my representative" spiked after vote to gut ethics watchdog
http://hill.cm/1RWBKZG


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Take a moment to fathom what just happened with that attempt to gut the House ethics office (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2017 OP
Just heard a panal on cnn-basically, the host and Bill Press attributed the cave to riversedge Jan 2017 #1
my tweet... riversedge Jan 2017 #3
Yes, CNN reported that it was cancelled due to Tweets from Trump, showing where the power is SharonAnn Jan 2017 #22
Thanks! @bpshow @CNNPolitics Remember Keith Olberman saying we need to contact these news Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #39
They got confused - they thought it was an "ethnic" committee underpants Jan 2017 #2
nice one! bigtree Jan 2017 #5
4th times a charm underpants Jan 2017 #18
Just because you don't get posts saying your posts are funny doesn't mean people aren't Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #40
I know underpants Jan 2017 #53
Beautiful! Squinch Jan 2017 #15
I see what you did there Va Lefty Jan 2017 #26
hehe, good one n/t hibbing Jan 2017 #34
DUZY !!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #47
underpants' quip is True Dough Jan 2017 #51
+ underpants Jan 2017 #52
this just means they will do it secretly, anonymously and Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #4
that's how we began this little odyssey bigtree Jan 2017 #6
because they told us about it and dont think that theyre not Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #7
That's my take n/t malaise Jan 2017 #8
yea they got caught they will wait and redo it when all the Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #10
you can't hide the neutering of the ethics office in a budget bill bigtree Jan 2017 #12
Well, they could tie it as a rider to a necessary bill, presumably. malthaussen Jan 2017 #20
YES! ACA, and just as important Medicaid. Medicaid is smaller than Medicare, serves people Squinch Jan 2017 #16
What you said x 1000! sheshe2 Jan 2017 #19
I've been waiting till the holidays were over, but I want to start working within DU on this. Squinch Jan 2017 #23
Awesome Idea!! FrankfurtCat Jan 2017 #31
Excellent idea Squinch. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #32
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Jan 2017 #30
In other words the don't want them to do their job, just go along & get along. Historic NY Jan 2017 #9
Hey, Pete! They're not all left wing organizations! Warpy Jan 2017 #11
Look at the dogs! Look at the ponies! Check out the smoke and mirrors! rzemanfl Jan 2017 #13
that was his cover Skittles Jan 2017 #43
I have trouble distinguishing between a cover and a diversion. rzemanfl Jan 2017 #44
the repukes pushed for the ethics gutting Skittles Jan 2017 #54
That makes sense I guess, if "dumber than fuck" applies to all of them and Drumpf rzemanfl Jan 2017 #56
could still be a cover Skittles Jan 2017 #57
I have to tell you this. My grandchildren have a long haired white cat that sheds constantly rzemanfl Jan 2017 #58
Skittles was my 25 pound solid black bundle of feline fur Skittles Jan 2017 #59
Of course my grandchildren did too. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #60
they have no mandate and they know it. mopinko Jan 2017 #14
THIS IS HOW WE DO IT!!!! And there are enough of us here on DU to make a real difference, simply by Squinch Jan 2017 #17
We need to be relentless in our pursuit. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #21
REC. riversedge Jan 2017 #24
I want to give you some credit. Lifelong Protester Jan 2017 #46
Yes! The First Amendment is or best tool. Jacob Boehme Jan 2017 #25
for the moment MFM008 Jan 2017 #27
Gop already said they will vote on it again before they recess in AUG. riversedge Jan 2017 #36
POS "I have enough unethical behavior for us all" you are not allowed Motley13 Jan 2017 #28
False flag? Marthe48 Jan 2017 #29
Only Dump is allowed to ignore ethics standards NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #33
To the best of my ability :) Marthe48 Jan 2017 #35
Just a charade people.... Chakaconcarne Jan 2017 #37
Another reason to love democracy LandrosT Jan 2017 #38
Good job, America! Keep up the good work. McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 #41
So Good to Know this is what really happened since I've Cha Jan 2017 #42
Check this out--David Cay Johnston will be on the job not fooled Jan 2017 #45
Thank You! I Just Bookmarked It Leith Jan 2017 #50
this just means they hadn't alerted their talk radio army in time certainot Jan 2017 #48
Ponder the facts: They wanted and thought they needed bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #49
kick Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #55

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
1. Just heard a panal on cnn-basically, the host and Bill Press attributed the cave to
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:22 PM
Jan 2017

trumpy dumpy.

I sent a tweet to @bpshow.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
39. Thanks! @bpshow @CNNPolitics Remember Keith Olberman saying we need to contact these news
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:22 AM
Jan 2017

organizations?

I tweeted to those 2 also. I hope we keep encouraging people to keep their voices in other places besides DU!

The resistance!

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
40. Just because you don't get posts saying your posts are funny doesn't mean people aren't
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:24 AM
Jan 2017

laughing their asses off because of them.

I laugh at a lot of posts but I usually don't say anything. Maybe because it is not the thread topic. I don't know.

I thought it was really funny too!

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
4. this just means they will do it secretly, anonymously and
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jan 2017

behind closed doors and next time they just wont tell you

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
12. you can't hide the neutering of the ethics office in a budget bill
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jan 2017

...or any other legislation.

They tried to sneak it in and failed miserably. The cynicism over this, and speculation that republicans will just get more clever in the future, doesn't jibe with the arrogant bungling we just witnessed.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
20. Well, they could tie it as a rider to a necessary bill, presumably.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jan 2017

I frankly can't understand why they'd bother, it's not as though the Ethics Committee actually does anything. Which makes me wonder if this was a catspaw for something else.

But the arrogance of ignorance cannot be ruled out.

-- Mal

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
16. YES! ACA, and just as important Medicaid. Medicaid is smaller than Medicare, serves people
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jan 2017

who are disabled and people who are poor, people who have less of a voice. They are going after that quietly and first. We have to clobber them over that nonsense.

All fuckers who vote for cutting taxes for billionaires by ditching services for disabled children should be stalked and their actions publicized and they should be shown no mercy.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
23. I've been waiting till the holidays were over, but I want to start working within DU on this.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

We have so many here, and obviously the vast majority of us agree about SS, ACA, Medicare, Medicaid. We should be identifying any Dems who look like they might help Republicans on any of those issues, and we should be inundating them with letters, emails, texts, tweets, facebook, etc.

Then every one of us should be contacting Congress people from multiple states, not just our own, to let the Republicans know the barbarians are at their gates, and their actions are not going unnoticed. If each of us here took 10 states and spent a half hour for 10 days to contact each representative on each of those ten states, we'd have tens of thousands of contacts to each of those reps.

I'm going to try some posts to stir up this kind of activity.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
11. Hey, Pete! They're not all left wing organizations!
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jan 2017

Many of them are your own constituents, you fucking halfwit, and it's time you pay a little attention to all those little people you don't think are smart enough to do anything they're not told to do. You decided you could get free access to the cookie jar if you just shot Mom. Well, a lot of people out there of all political stripes just told you that is wrong.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
13. Look at the dogs! Look at the ponies! Check out the smoke and mirrors!
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:51 PM
Jan 2017

Diversion? What diversion? Russia? Oh, that's nothing.... North Korea, China? No big deal. Look! Look! See how Orange Julius Caesar respects our democracy and how responsive our elected representatives are. Give me an effing break.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
44. I have trouble distinguishing between a cover and a diversion.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jan 2017

What do you see as being the difference?

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
54. the repukes pushed for the ethics gutting
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jan 2017

because they are drunk on power, corrupt and dumber than fuck......there was a lot of anger, resulting in lots of calls from constituents that made them back off - Trump, knowing this, gets on Twitter and acts like he is the savior, but is slimy enough not to TRASH the action, but just to say THIS ISN'T THE TIME, so it looks like HE IS IN CONTROL RIGHT NOW, when of course the action will be taken at a later time......his idiotic, cult-like fans EAT IT UP because they are EASILY FOOLED.....heck, their belief in propaganda is what made them VOTE for him

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
56. That makes sense I guess, if "dumber than fuck" applies to all of them and Drumpf
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

is capable of "knowing" something.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
57. could still be a cover
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jan 2017

in the sense that AFTER the flak, some advisor told him to say something

Seriously, Donald is an extremely ethically-challenged asshole - he doesn't care about ANYTHING regarding ethics, so we may both be correct

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
58. I have to tell you this. My grandchildren have a long haired white cat that sheds constantly
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 06:35 PM
Jan 2017

and weighs twenty-two pounds. His name is "Skittles."

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
59. Skittles was my 25 pound solid black bundle of feline fur
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 06:42 PM
Jan 2017

he passed away on my fifth anniversary on DU

yes, I named him after the candy

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
14. they have no mandate and they know it.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jan 2017

no matter how much they deny it. hell, i wouldnt know what their mandate would even be. voters are fine w cheeto throwing all his election promises overboard.

they will be uniquely susceptible to public pressure.
he who lives by the tweet dies by the tweet.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
17. THIS IS HOW WE DO IT!!!! And there are enough of us here on DU to make a real difference, simply by
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jan 2017

harrying the congress and frightening them with our numbers.

I'm so glad to see this.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
46. I want to give you some credit.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jan 2017

Because of your posts yesterday, I wrote my congress-critter! ( I emailed because someone posted that all over Washington, the voice-mail boxes were full.)

Jacob Boehme

(789 posts)
25. Yes! The First Amendment is or best tool.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:46 PM
Jan 2017
The Constitution gives us some of its greatest gifts under "Freedom Of Speech" and "...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

We must become adept at using the tools provided us. This is why the First Amendment becomes our relentless battering ram to knock down the lies and deceit taking over our government.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
29. False flag?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

I can't see d.ump taking the side of ethics any time, ever. But if this is all a stunt stage-managed by the teabaggers to make d.ump look like he's in charge, it all makes sense.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
33. Only Dump is allowed to ignore ethics standards
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 06:35 PM
Jan 2017

and of course his family.

But this is how it's done. Even Republicans in Congress can't ignore a flood of calls, emails, tweets, social media postings, etc.

RESIST!

 

LandrosT

(50 posts)
38. Another reason to love democracy
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jan 2017

Hopefully most Americans will wake up during the next 4 years, as Trump and his goons will do everything within their power to undermine our country's democratic institutions.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
41. Good job, America! Keep up the good work.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:07 AM
Jan 2017

The last time people were this interested in politics and the news was 1973.

Cha

(297,258 posts)
42. So Good to Know this is what really happened since I've
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:21 AM
Jan 2017

been hearing m$m is giving credit to dump tweets.

All tweeters should tweet the stations like riversedge and flood them with clues.

Thank you for this excellent OP, bigtree~ It is an brilliant example of activism in action!

I wouldn't be surprised if trump handlers saw the outcry and decided he should get in on it and look like some kind of idiot hero.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
45. Check this out--David Cay Johnston will be on the job
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jan 2017

He is putting together a team to report on what they're up to:

www.dcreport.org

looks like a great resource which will cut through the BS and let us know ahead of time what sh*t they will try to get away with so that we can spring into action

DCJ is a very smart guy who literally wrote the book on Trump recently and is immune to the con.


from the website:

DCReport

Covering what our federal government DOES, not what politicians SAY

Subscribe for Updates

A unique nonprofit news service
Others quote what Trump Tweets.
We report on what the Trump Administration does.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
48. this just means they hadn't alerted their talk radio army in time
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jan 2017

to mobilize the made-to-order screaming hordes in time to counter the real outrage.

never fear, republicans, dems continue to ignore rw radio and once trump is in you'll have all 300 of your talk radio gods and all 1200 of those radio stations humming on the same tune and in time- be back to normal soon

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
49. Ponder the facts: They wanted and thought they needed
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jan 2017

to ditch the Ethics Office in a REPUBLICAN controlled House

THEY MUST HAVE SOME SERIOUS SHIT PLANNED

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