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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA good indication on how the SCOTUS will rule on the ACA
"The folly of Obamacare"
http://www.uschambersmallbusinessnation.com/article/the-folly-of-obamacare
and
"Supreme Court: U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Undefeated This Term"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/supreme-court-us-chamber-of-commerce_n_1617392.html
Do the math.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)can/should survive the striking down of the individual mandate.
I think we can safely anticipate at least part of the ACA being declared unconstitutional--most likely the mandate.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)it's foundation. And a few good, but minor improvements are left.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)be made in the case that the mandate is struck down.
It is not fair/practical/reasonable to expect the SCOTUS to craft a compromise in this matter that the Congress cannot/will not put together itself. It's "outside their institutional competence" as the saying goes.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Truly. My father, as I've mentioned far too many times, is a retired insurance CEO. Insurance companies have wanted a mandate for decades. It's the only thing that will make their business sustainable. Unless we also allow them to keep cutting people off when they get sick or deny coverage to many. I don't think insurance companies want the mandate to go away unless all of HCR goes away.
HCR was a gift to the insurance industry.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)of the insurance industry.
Single payer is the answer for most of the civilized world.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)in fact, my republican ex-insurance pop agrees too. Single payer is the way to go, and striking down HCR could end up making that a reality.
Just think that the corporate loving republicans have boxed themselves into a tight spot. The mandate was their idea, but once the administration adopted it (to the great displeasure of many) republicans turned against it. It's not like they could attack covering kids until age 26 or getting rid of pre existing conditions so they attacked the part that their corporate campaign contributors actually wanted (the mandate.) So if you see republicans cheering the supreme court striking down HCR know that the insurance industry is silently aware that their days are numbered. They were bleeding money before HCR even while impoverishing families unlucky enough to grow old or contract a big illness.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)[div class="excerpt]Single payer is the way to go, and striking down HCR could end up making that a reality.
How could this possibly happen, when the insurance companies can spend billions to buy the elections?
The more we raise more money for our side, the more they just raise the insurance premiums and give the GOP even more.
The insurance companies love a mandate for us to pay them money.
They don't love a mandate for them to actually provide us with health care when we do.
liberalnationalist
(170 posts)of these rightwing justices looking at child porn or drunk driving or something
edhopper
(33,587 posts)lied about their income sources and collaborated with entities that had cases before the court. (Thomas and Scalia)
The Dems are too much wussies to do a damn thing.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)The only remedy available is impeachment, and we can't even get that off the ground with the GOP controlling the House.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)has even made this an issue.
Look how the Right Wing and it's media make a big deal about things like Soyandra and the current Holder thing.
They won't even go after them in the media.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)The Mighty Slime Machine works for THEM.
Kennah
(14,276 posts)If universal healthcare were enacted via medicare, that may be the way in to beating the SCOTUS.