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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:30 PM Jan 2017

In Break With Precedent, Obama Envoys Are Denied Extensions Past Inauguration Day

What a petty little man.


In Break With Precedent, Obama Envoys Are Denied Extensions Past Inauguration Day
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS
January 5, 2017


WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump’s transition staff has issued a blanket edict requiring politically appointed ambassadors to leave their overseas posts by Inauguration Day, according to several American diplomats familiar with the plan, breaking with decades of precedent by declining to provide even the briefest of grace periods.

The mandate — issued “without exceptions,” according to a terse State Department cable sent on Dec. 23, diplomats who saw it said — threatens to leave the United States without Senate-confirmed envoys for months in critical nations like Germany, Canada and Britain. In the past, administrations of both parties have often granted extensions on a case-by-case basis to allow a handful of ambassadors, particularly those with school-age children, to remain in place for weeks or months.

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The directive has nonetheless upended the personal lives of many ambassadors, who are scrambling to secure living arrangements and acquire visas allowing them to remain in their countries so their children can remain in school, the diplomats said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly on the matter.

In Costa Rica, Ambassador Stafford Fitzgerald Haney is hunting for a house or an apartment as his family — which includes four school-age children and his wife, who has been battling breast cancer — struggles to figure out how to avoid a move back to the United States with five months left in the school year, according to the diplomats.

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In Break With Precedent, Obama Envoys Are Denied Extensions Past Inauguration Day (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2017 OP
There are no words for this fucking fuck malaise Jan 2017 #1
Prepare for dictatorship Generic Brad Jan 2017 #2
That is it.. pangaia Jan 2017 #4
Agreed. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #9
Agreed. Ilsa Jan 2017 #11
Just posted in another thread, so I won't repeat myself. colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #37
Words escape me. n/t GP6971 Jan 2017 #3
What an ignorant fuck. NT enough Jan 2017 #5
and an extremely dangerous fuck. n/t GP6971 Jan 2017 #6
tRump is a petty, vindictive, ignorant, vulgar bloated buffoon etherealtruth Jan 2017 #7
the fascists... myohmy2 Jan 2017 #8
He's determined to make enemies where he doesn't need to. milestogo Jan 2017 #10
I wonder if they are afraid the ambassadors and Ilsa Jan 2017 #12
Foul and vile superpatriotman Jan 2017 #13
fucker is going to get his karma in full one of these days and Cha Jan 2017 #14
I sure hope so. C Moon Jan 2017 #36
That's the only thing I can hang on to, C Moon. Cha Jan 2017 #38
I'm with ya! C Moon Jan 2017 #43
He wants to create emergencies Sanity Claws Jan 2017 #15
Mean spirited, for no reason. Welcome to the next four years. tritsofme Jan 2017 #16
He is an out-of-control egomaniac. Boomerproud Jan 2017 #17
from President Barack Obama to a major asshole. spanone Jan 2017 #18
Trying to understand this... neeksgeek Jan 2017 #19
payback will come some day... dhill926 Jan 2017 #20
I don't think the Clintons mountain grammy Jan 2017 #21
but they are all going to because orleans Jan 2017 #22
Couldn't agree more. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #25
Yeah I told people in my church who were on the unity kick that it was a non-starter... 47of74 Jan 2017 #27
But they are all going to because ..... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #31
Melania is using their son's school year as her excuse for not moving into the WH. keithbvadu2 Jan 2017 #23
It's not just the impact on families, but also on diplomatic affairs nadine_mn Jan 2017 #24
But - Benghazi! colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #40
Trump is bottom of the barrel so where does that put his supporters? world wide wally Jan 2017 #26
It's not just trump, but those behind the curtain telling him what to do. Fla Dem Jan 2017 #28
Nicely put. randome Jan 2017 #46
We've certainly gone... wcmagumba Jan 2017 #29
Crystal clear, isn't it? Girard442 Jan 2017 #30
Nailed it. colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #41
Do ambassadors need to be approved by the Senate? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #32
I am pretty sure the prez appoints. babylonsister Jan 2017 #45
As I think about it, yes, they must just be Presidential PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #49
For those of us stationed overseas DFW Jan 2017 #33
"so their children can remain in school" musette_sf Jan 2017 #34
Hypocrisy, thy name is TRUMP. Raster Jan 2017 #35
That's just an excuse. colorado_ufo Jan 2017 #42
Deplorable transition team. oasis Jan 2017 #39
Patronage. My God, how the money rolls in. $$$$$$ Hekate Jan 2017 #44
This isn't about mercuryblues Jan 2017 #47
Wow. Hugin Jan 2017 #48

colorado_ufo

(5,738 posts)
37. Just posted in another thread, so I won't repeat myself.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:34 AM
Jan 2017

Trump - and Putin - want only envoys in place who will be friendly to their purposes.

You thought PNAC was bad? Trump has his eye on controlling the world as a monopoly, along with Putin. Only he doesn't realize that Putin has a different end game, and it doesn't include him.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. tRump is a petty, vindictive, ignorant, vulgar bloated buffoon
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jan 2017

I expect nothing less than petty, vindictive, ignorant, vulgar, grotesque buffoonery from this sick "eff"

Ilsa

(61,700 posts)
12. I wonder if they are afraid the ambassadors and
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jan 2017

Envoys are going to find out about some new plan hatching to screw with allies. Yeah, I'm paranoid.

Boomerproud

(7,969 posts)
17. He is an out-of-control egomaniac.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jan 2017

There are going to be consequences he and his bootlickers haven't even contemplated.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
19. Trying to understand this...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:51 PM
Jan 2017

I've known a few people with this sort of personality. Making people pay because they can. Going after anybody who they perceive as their opponent, regardless. Doing anything that's within their power, just to show that they've got the power. It's more than just bullying.

This is a person who sought power so he could wield it. All I can think of is the old maxim, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."

orleans

(34,079 posts)
22. but they are all going to because
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:05 PM
Jan 2017
IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO GET ALONG



(i think i've expressed myself clearly)
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
27. Yeah I told people in my church who were on the unity kick that it was a non-starter...
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jan 2017

...if they thought I was going to join them in appeasing and kissing up to conservatives in the name of unity and getting along with everyone.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
24. It's not just the impact on families, but also on diplomatic affairs
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:13 PM
Jan 2017

Obviously the ambassadors and their families will feel the brunt of this, but if positions go unfilled for months - it will screw over incoming ambassadors as they struggle to put out any fires and get caught up to speed.


It is just fucking ridiculous, and you know he didn't come up with this all on his own because I am pretty sure he can't even contemplate all the work involved in a presidential administration - you the whole administering part, not the fucking victory tour part.

world wide wally

(21,756 posts)
26. Trump is bottom of the barrel so where does that put his supporters?
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:20 PM
Jan 2017

They are the ones that really disgust me.

Fla Dem

(23,771 posts)
28. It's not just trump, but those behind the curtain telling him what to do.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:43 PM
Jan 2017

While I know he is ignorantly dangerous, I fear those whispering in his ear are fiendishly dangerous.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. Nicely put.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:26 AM
Jan 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

Girard442

(6,086 posts)
30. Crystal clear, isn't it?
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jan 2017

You give consideration to the outgoing people in the quite reasonable expectation that you'll get consideration when you're the outgoing ones.

But...the Trumpoids are planning to stay forever.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
32. Do ambassadors need to be approved by the Senate?
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jan 2017

Or does the President just appoint and off they go?

No matter what, there is going to be no smooth transition to say the least. I wonder how many State Department employees, the rank and file who actually do the day to day work at the embassies, I wonder how many of them will decide to get another career.

babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
45. I am pretty sure the prez appoints.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:24 AM
Jan 2017

There are too many of them to go through the approval process and iirc he can pick who he wants to serve and represent us elsewhere.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
49. As I think about it, yes, they must just be Presidential
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jan 2017

appointees. So of course Trump is quite right to appoint his own, but once again he's showing how he hasn't a clue how government really works.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
33. For those of us stationed overseas
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:54 PM
Jan 2017

This move is a combination of stupidity, cynicism and pure meanness that by itself disgusts, but as a precedent of things to come from this administration, a chilly wind of disgust and apprehension.

musette_sf

(10,206 posts)
34. "so their children can remain in school"
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jan 2017

Meanwhile, the (current) Rump wife won't move to DC because HIS kid needs to "remain in school" in NYC. The hypocrisy and general all-over evil just gets worse every minute of every day.

colorado_ufo

(5,738 posts)
42. That's just an excuse.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jan 2017

I do not believe that Trump even wants Melania there, and she is happy to oblige.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
47. This isn't about
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jan 2017

wielding power just because he can. This is direct payback from the president elect to the sitting President for expelling Russian diplomats. Putin's puppet indeed.

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