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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:01 PM Jun 2012

How To Beat a Drug Test

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/06/how_to_beat_a_drug_test.php

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So, we've put together a little guide for beating common urine tests. And while none of these methods are foolproof, they def better position you to achieve "clean" pee than doing nothing. And remember: depending on where you test, some of these methods might be considered illegal. That said, enjoy!

Watch Your Weight

Yes, a lot of pot's chemical components get stored in fat tissue. So, some say that more fat, the higher the likelihood of failing a drug test. However, you might want to avoid crash diets before a test, because rapid weight loss has been tied to the release of THC metabolites.

Drink Water

Scratch that: Drink obscene amounts of water. Like, more water than you could ever imagine or (would want to). Basically, you should drink as much water between being notified of an upcoming test and the exam. This helps flush the chemicals in question out of the urinary tract, working like a "temporary" detox.

Make Sober Friends

The means of delivery are up to you, but swapping your pee for someone else's seems to be one of the better ways, so long as said friend doesn't do drugs and isn't pregnant, etc. Just don't make the same mistake as Mishelle Salzgeber: She reportedly hid a bottle of urine in her vagina, but it turned out to test positive for drugs. So she was arrested on charges of testing positive and trying to beat the test.
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How To Beat a Drug Test (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2012 OP
I hear a gallon of Goldenseal tea will do the trick lunatica Jun 2012 #1
Another simple piece of advice for anyone facing a drug test based on my own experience slackmaster Jun 2012 #2
I've worked construction since '71 panader0 Jun 2012 #3
I was watching Maury the other day and one man's RebelOne Jun 2012 #4
Polygraph test results are not admissible in court. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2012 #6
thanks FirstLight Jun 2012 #5
Forgot two things WilmywoodNCparalegal Jun 2012 #7
I agree that not doing drugs is a good idea but I don't agree with your analogy at all slackmaster Jun 2012 #12
i'd put it on the same level as "padding" your résumé BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #15
It's not illegal to drink alcohol. NutmegYankee Jun 2012 #22
A related aside, I have a long history of kidney stones longship Jun 2012 #8
these are ridiculous suggestions mzteris Jun 2012 #9
Synthetic urine, if it's a pre-employment drug test Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #10
Its always worked for me, I get Dehydrated and always keep it in my tool box for radium test. bahrbearian Jun 2012 #16
Study Hard NT julian09 Jun 2012 #11
One way to beat a piss test: Don't smoke dope. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #13
That is the worst way to beat a drug test. morningfog Jun 2012 #17
Yezzir. Iggo Jun 2012 #18
Those who conduct these tests will do more than run the actual test... cynatnite Jun 2012 #14
Yes. Where I work, we have had drug tests come back with negative results, but the specimen Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #21
The best way I've found is to not get hired by any company that would test Tsiyu Jun 2012 #19
Spam deleted by Violet_Crumble (MIR Team) mytoocents Jun 2012 #20
I just say, no. The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #24

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. I hear a gallon of Goldenseal tea will do the trick
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:08 PM
Jun 2012

It'll get rid of all the toxins so drug tests come out squeaky clean the next day.

Of course if they take a sample of your hair all the drugs show up.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
2. Another simple piece of advice for anyone facing a drug test based on my own experience
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:08 PM
Jun 2012

The initial screening usually consists of an inexpensive urine test that tests for metabolites of five or so classes of drugs, and is not very specific.

There are MANY common over-the-counter medications, and prescription drugs, that cause FALSE POSITIVES on the cheap screens.

I discovered this many, many years ago on the ONE time I've ever had to submit to pre-employment drug screening. I occasionally take a prescription non-steroidal anti-inflammatory called etodolac, trade name Lodine.

Etodolac causes a false positive on the cannabanoid test, i.e. marijuana. I was concerned about that, and went to a head shop in beautiful Ocean Beach, CA (suburb of San Diego) and bought myself a couple of 5-panel urine test kits.

Lo and behold, a day after I had taken a Lodine pill I flunked the marijuana test. I laid off the Lodine for three days and re-tested myself. I came up clean.

If you flunk the urine test you can challenge it, but the employer is likely to respond by requiring a gas chromatograph test using the same sample you submitted initially. In the event a person who got a false positive due to etodolac happened to have used cannabis a few weeks earlier, that would possibly show up on the GC test. At that point, you are sunk.

ETA the solution to pollution is dilution. Lay off of all drugs for as long as you can prior to the test. The day before the test drink plenty of fluids - Any kind, water is fine. The morning of the test flush your body by drinking plenty of water.

Under no circumstances allow your first urine of the day to be tested, or the first part of the stream of any urination event.

There is a chance your urine might come out too dilute to test. This is determined by the concentration of creatinine and other substances that are always present in urine. If your urine is found to be too dilute, tell the company that your doctor has recommended that you drink lots of fluids in order to prevent the formation of kidney stones. You may be asked to submit another sample, or they may just pass you.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. I've worked construction since '71
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jun 2012

In the old days most of the guys were drunks, gradually changing into druggies. On any given job, 80 or 90 percent of the workers would have peed dirty had they been tested. In all those years, I was never tested, and I've been on some big jobs. Once, on a big union job on an army base when I was one of six foremen, the bosses held a meeting and decided not to test anyone as they would have lost most of their crew.
Construction, the last frontier. As long as you're good at your trade you're safe.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
4. I was watching Maury the other day and one man's
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jun 2012

test came out as inconclusive because he had been taking Xanax (not sure of the spelling). But the lie detector expert said that if a person takes that drug before a lie detector test that the results will come out as inconclusive.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. Polygraph test results are not admissible in court.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jun 2012

People make a big deal out of flunking a polygraph test, but in the world of law, it means nothing. They are not admissible into evidence because they are not reliable.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
5. thanks
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jun 2012

It pisses me off to no end that to find a good job one has to submit to the invasion of privacy by giving up bodily fluids or hair... I ahve been anti drug testing since it began, and have always thought it should be unconstitutional. but there's no protections for the worker bees of our society anymore.
My last stand now is that I refuse to submit to a credit check...it is nobody's business the state of my non existent bank acct or defaulted student loan.

I am applying for a couple corporate jobs this week, and am mentally preparing myself to have to succumb to the pee test...IF I even make it to the interview...

WilmywoodNCparalegal

(2,654 posts)
7. Forgot two things
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jun 2012

Don't do any drugs. Don't drink alcohol. Cheating the tests is akin to someone using a fake social security card or green card.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. I agree that not doing drugs is a good idea but I don't agree with your analogy at all
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jun 2012

Using a fake Social Security Number and using a forged green card are both crimes. Taking legal measures to optimize your chances of passing an employer's drug test is not.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. A related aside, I have a long history of kidney stones
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jun 2012

About every seven years since I was 20. Twice, I had to have them dealt with surgically. Once, Lithotripsy (sp?); once LASER. (BTW, if you have a choice, sonic wave litotripsy is the way, way better choice.)

The point of my post here is to impart some knowledge that my urologist in Wichita told me while we were hunting for the elusive stones causing me to pee blood. He asked me if I drank beer. I said, indeed I do. He told me that beer is a great diuretic, it makes you pee. For kidney stones -- and possibly for a near future drug urine test -- I cannot think of a more pleasurable solution.

I did not pass the stone in Wichita. Lithotripsy saved the day. But two weeks ago I passed one on my own -- thank goodness to the beer gods. And thanks to Dr. Cossman in Wichita who encouraged me.

If you want to dilute your pee, use beer -- hopefully good beer, not stupid Light garbage. I recommend IPA -- no pun intended.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
9. these are ridiculous suggestions
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jun 2012

Weight could affect how long a drug is detectable in your system, but not all that much.

2. if you drink "obscene amounts of water, the urine would be too diluted and they'd throw it out adnnd report you.

3. Swapping is downright impossible even if you DO manage to smuggle it in - which ain't easy; they check things like temperature which needs to be consistent with normal recent output.

Then there are blood tests and hair tests (tests for THREE months usage. . . )

Nope, the best way to "beat a drug test"? Don' do drugs if you're job hunting. If you're working for a company with random drug tests, it's just a matter of time. And how lucky you are.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
10. Synthetic urine, if it's a pre-employment drug test
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jun 2012

Make sure it's in the right temperature - can get it from any head shop. My local one sells it for $25/bottle.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
13. One way to beat a piss test: Don't smoke dope.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jun 2012

Anyone who tells you different (unless you're using synthetic urine or something) is a fucking liar.

But hey, it's your livelihood and maybe a family you need to support... you do what you want.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
14. Those who conduct these tests will do more than run the actual test...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
Jun 2012

They have to note the physical attributes of the urine. They check color, temperature, odor, and pH. This is how they can determine if someone's trying to beat the test.

My advice is if you work for a company that does random drug testing (whether you agree with it or not) don't do the drugs if you plan on keeping your job.

Telling people how to beat the test is irresponsible.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
21. Yes. Where I work, we have had drug tests come back with negative results, but the specimen
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 03:21 AM
Jun 2012

was diluted from drinking too many liquids. Those employees were retested without being given enough time to drink enough liquids to alter the test results again.

Drug testing is almost forced on companies these days either by their insurance carriers or other companies that you do work for. My boss resisted for a long time as he believes that what you do on your own time is your own business, as long as it doesn't affect your job performance or the safety of your co-workers. However, some of our customers require that we have our own drug policy in force or we are subject to the terms of their drug policy when we are working on their premises. Some of those policies are very strict. Also, we receive a discount on worker's comp insurance premiums by qualifying as a drug-free workplace. In the end, we wrote a drug policy that gave him as much leeway as possible while still meeting the requirements we needed.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
19. The best way I've found is to not get hired by any company that would test
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jun 2012


I find it an appalling invasion of privacy, whether one imbibes in any substances or not.

It is truly to be treated as if one were "guilty before proven innocent."

So I won't work for a company that tests, even though I have taken them to get jobs in the past.

Now, all companies will test if you get hurt, so it's best to stay clean, but THC stays in the system a month or more, so there's no room to use it for aches and pains or what have you if you think you will ever have a lawsuit against your workplace.

As for those who think it's "impossible" to cheat, all I can say is you are very naive. This is a prison culture and there are so many people getting tested due to drug convictions you better believe folks have found ways to beat the system.

Not saying one should do it, but don't think it can't be done. Very easily.

The Midway Rebel

(2,191 posts)
23. I just say, no.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jun 2012

To UA that is. I say, you want to see whats in my pee? Get a fucking warrant you fucking fascist bastards.

I cannot beleive how "land of the free, home of the brave" has rolled over for this violation of our constitution.

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