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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMay 26, 2017 is the day I predict that impeachment proceedings will start in the U.S. House
of Representatives for Trump.
That's four months into his term, the end of a week (so Republicans can try to bury it), and by that time, Trump will have humiliated enough Republicans to make impeachment likely.
Any thoughts on this? (And yes, I know, that Pence would ascend to the presidency and that is a most terrible thing.)
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Then the prosecutors of the impeachment would keep piling all the horrible trump facts and activities.
liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)Then we will have to suffer through a state funeral for an orange turd.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Luz
(772 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)I will turn my back as the hearse goes by.
liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)If I am ever encountered by a trump motorcade of any kind, I will turn my back as it passes.
Did that once on Capital Hill as bush jr went by. Stood there looking the other way.
eniwetok
(1,629 posts)no matter how outrageous he gets.
lapfog_1
(29,228 posts)The old guard is scared to death of Trump voters (low information, hate filled tea party types). They created this monster (both the party and it's Twitler leader) and dare not cross it now.
gordianot
(15,247 posts)You do not provide children with matches.
safeinOhio
(32,736 posts)Treason trials. Tump and about half of his cabinet.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)that voted for Trump who will have it in their mind that Trump's idea would have worked if only they'd been implemented. They'll get slaughtered in the midterms by their own voters.
If you're going to see impeachment proceedings, you'll see it in 2019. My prediction, though, is that trump steps down for "health reasons" in 2019 under the whispered threat of impeachment from republicans.
RealityChik
(382 posts)I think the only thing that would initiate a hasty impeachment by the Repubs is if he vetoes their entire agenda during the next few months.
Barring that, your prediction is a much more logical progression of possible events. Nice work!
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Unwilling to play ball with republicans on anything, they'll start much sooner than the midterms.
Baitball Blogger
(46,769 posts)I'll give him six months. Not that I doubt that he will give us good reason to remove him by May, but because it will take six months before the Republican voters get the full buyer's remorse effect AND they become convinced that Congress will do nothing without Tea Party style protests.
cheyanne
(733 posts)Leaving office via impeachment/resignation before end of term: 6/4 ($100 bet gets you $166.68)
haele
(12,683 posts)The Randroids and Tea-haidists will get the few laws and repeals they really wanted signed off, get at least one Supreme Court nominee ala Roberts or Aleto (waiting for them to nominate John Yee), and have some Koch/Mercer/DeVos tank run the numbers to see the fiscal impact over the next three years.
Then they will start trying to get rid of him so they can blame him for subsequent public disasters and civil unrest without having to listen to his blather about being set up. (So sorry Jared K; you're one of the first to be tossed off the gravy train...)
Also, by getting rid of him by the end of August, it'll have the least impact to the next fiscal year budget - and they can continue to pay off their business partners with lucrative contracts to offset the cuts in Federal employment they're going to enact.
Another prediction - the economy will start to crash beginning Q3 of next year with the first of the dead cat bounces. If the climate doesn't go to shit over the next five years with expensive storms, droughts and flooding washing away top soil, we might be able to avoid another Great Depression, but I'm not really counting on that.
Right before I apply for my meager Reservist military retirement to start supplementing what little I have in 401k's and Roths...sigh...
Start saving, folks. It's going to be a couple bumpy years ahead.
Haele
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,912 posts)That's the Friday before Memorial Day, so I sincerely doubt Congress will even be in session that day.
Zambero
(8,974 posts)If the reason for removal is not cited as high crimes and misdemeanors (and as of right now those qualifiers are very much in the picture), then gross incompetence, detachment from duties, or psychological manifestations rendering him to be unfit to serve as POTUS could be the driver per the 25th. Ironically, the cabinet including the VP and not House impeachment managers would have a role in this process. As for an ascension of Dominionist Pence, any impeachment or other constitutional process for Trump's removal as played out would not make much difference because Pence would have been pulling the strings in Dick Chaplinesque fashion all along. Trump as an embarrassing and/or dangerous figurehead would be gone, and whether that represents an "improvement" or not is certainly up for debate.
Xolodno
(6,406 posts)I'd say give him about a year to screw things up, enough scandals, etc. to the point those who elected him can't stand him.
I doubt it will come to impeachment though, he'll probably resign first....along the lines "business needing him more and Pence is qualified".
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The GOP won't do such a thing. They'd rather just pass laws that were veto proof to stop him.
Cosmocat
(14,575 posts)1) first and foremost, WE will be calling for it, so that means they cant do it. Seriously.
2) they care first and foremost about their jobs, and his support is so virulent any rep who voted to bring up articles of impeachment or senator who voted for it as an R would get their asses crushed in a primary.
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)"humiliated enough Republicans" as the basis of an impeachment move?
No explanation of the actual charges that would be filed?
No assessment of the likelihood that 2/3 of the Senate would vote to convict?
herding cats
(19,568 posts)Congress takes off from the 29th (Memorial Day) until June 2nd. No way in hell theyre messing up a scheduled vacay.
I really don't think they'll impeach him, though. There's 2018 and 2020 to think of, and 2020 is a census year. They need a majority at state levels for gerrymandering purposes, and they're well aware of that fact.
forgotmylogin
(7,539 posts)He'll get tired of the schedule, bored of having to listen to meetings that don't involve his money, sick of 16 hour work days, tired of the white house not being covered in gold leaf, and fed up that "President" does more work than a "king" does. He will be the first President to resign "to pursue other opportunities".
mnhtnbb
(31,408 posts)where Trump will just pass the work to Pence and only show up himself for the ceremonial gigs
OR
there will be a "removal" from office by some means not related to due process.
Regardless of which happens, I think Pence will be making the decisions, unless he is included
in the not due process removal scenario. Then we get Ryan.
I don't think there will be an impeachment.
hibbing
(10,110 posts)RealityChik
(382 posts)Pence can be controlled. Trump cannot and that might just be better for us. Trump is so unpredictable and revengeful that no Repub is safe from a Trump scathing rebuke. Watch Trump throw a few crumbs of public good will to keep his blind faith supporters from totally abandoning him after they discover their hero has been screwing them behind scenes.
With Pence, it will be Scew America, full speed ahead!
I predict that it will be Trump's kids that will bring him down. The one to watch is the son-in-law! We can only hope, right?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)It makes ema ll look bad.
What would they gain? Besides, Trump is too easy to sway.
Power - its all about power - those who hold it want to keep it, and can and will put up with a bunch of BS.
Expect nothing till the next election, and they may take stock at that time to see how bad they might do.