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Penn State's football program is toast. (Original Post) Archae Jun 2012 OP
Archae, I think it will come back Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2012 #1
Six months? A year? aquart Jun 2012 #4
It will be in the best interest of the expanded Big Ten (what do they call themselves now?) sadbear Jun 2012 #2
Re: your aside. They're morphing away from Big10 but to what I don't know. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #16
I think "Mid West 12" would be closer. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #18
How sad that a once great organization has been so hurt by what went on. They should southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #3
Perhaps Penn State should have thought of that a few years ago. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #5
I really don't see why those young guys who have trained all their lives should be punished. alphafemale Jun 2012 #6
Collateral damage. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #8
True enough. They should have the option of transferring DinahMoeHum Jun 2012 #9
Have you ever dealt with the NCAA? My oldest son is a college baseball player, and I guarantee ... 11 Bravo Jun 2012 #21
They have options. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #14
PSU football isn't going anywhere. Joe the Revelator Jun 2012 #7
Penn State football will be fine. WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #10
Wrong conclusion jimlup Jun 2012 #11
LOIC taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #12
Poor Joe is daid Zanzoobar Jun 2012 #13
I don't give a shit about their football program. progressoid Jun 2012 #15
+ a brazillion undeterred Jun 2012 #19
Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #24
I expect they will get PR people ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #17
The NCAA has to make a ruling. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #20
Sandusky had been retired for years DefenseLawyer Jun 2012 #22
They are so much better off without Sandusky but I hope this verdict and KurtNYC Jun 2012 #23

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
2. It will be in the best interest of the expanded Big Ten (what do they call themselves now?)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jun 2012

that Penn St. remain a competitive team. I'm talking about money, and for that reason, I don't think they'll be toast for long.

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
16. Re: your aside. They're morphing away from Big10 but to what I don't know.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jun 2012

I think they outta go with Big10+.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
18. I think "Mid West 12" would be closer.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:53 AM
Jun 2012

"Big" is meaningless.


Yes, you can argue that Penn. State isn't really in the mid west but it is more accurate than going with "10" when you have 12 schools in the conference. The same could be said for the University of Nebraska-Lincoln but my point still stands.

The conferences are regional in nature and it makes sense to name them that way.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. How sad that a once great organization has been so hurt by what went on. They should
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jun 2012

be out of play for at least 2 or 3 yrs.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
6. I really don't see why those young guys who have trained all their lives should be punished.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jun 2012

It was the sins of one pervert and some enablers. They had nothing to do with that.

Only if all of them can me taken into other top notch schools on whatever scholarships they had.

DinahMoeHum

(21,807 posts)
9. True enough. They should have the option of transferring
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jun 2012

to other schools without penalty by the NCAA.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
21. Have you ever dealt with the NCAA? My oldest son is a college baseball player, and I guarantee ...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jun 2012

you that the NCAA doesn't give a flying fuck about the athletes. It is all about the money.
(He hit .675 as a high school senior, with an even dozen home runs. In college he is no longer allowed to use the bat he used in high school because the school has a contract with a different manufacturer. He had a good year, hitting .406, but he tells me that he still doesn't feel comfortable with the new stick.)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. Wrong conclusion
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jun 2012

Hopefully some small gains against a society that has allowed people like Sandusky to thrive. But football - nope the two are not the same and they are not related.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
12. LOIC
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jun 2012

if this isn't Lack of Institutional Control... then I don't know what is.

USC received 2 year bowl ban and 30 scholie losses for ONE player taking benefits from a wannabe agent. Penn State deserves 10 year bowl ban and 1,000 scholarship losses. They deserve the death penalty.

 

Zanzoobar

(894 posts)
13. Poor Joe is daid
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:37 PM
Jun 2012

Ahem... LALALALALA!

I'm ready....

Pore Joe is daid
Pore Joe Pa is daid,
He's lookin' oh so peaceful and serene
He's all laid out to rest
With his hands acrost his chest
His fingernails have never been so clean!

Pore Joe is Daid, a candle lights his haid!
He's lookin' oh so purty and so nice
He looks like he's asleep,
It's a shame that he won't keep
But it's summer and we're running out of ice.

progressoid

(49,998 posts)
15. I don't give a shit about their football program.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 01:51 AM
Jun 2012
10 boys (that we know of) and 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

Their football program can rot for all I care.

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
17. I expect they will get PR people ...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:50 AM
Jun 2012

to exploit the sympathy card. Afterall, their beloved JoePa is still dead.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
20. The NCAA has to make a ruling.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:06 AM
Jun 2012

They would probably rather eat ground glass than handle this.
They have been saying that they would wait for the court case to be resolved. They usually stick their noses in anyway, but this was so big and serious that it was probably better that they waited.

Now we will see. They could say that Paterno is dead, Sandusky is in jail, and the rest is really administrative matter. I don't think that will fly in light of the testimony about so many coaches 'not seeing' what they saw.

Talk about lack of institutional control. That usually brings down a hammer.

I hope they lower the boom and clear that FB staff out. Too many people still there have been around forever.
They may say that it's not fair to the players. Well boo hoo! That didn't matter when it came to SMU.

This is such an egregious and horrible mess that they better act. BUT PSU has a lot of clout in a lot of areas.



 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
22. Sandusky had been retired for years
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

Yeah the whole thing is a black eye for everyone involved, but it's hard to see any NCAA violations for the current program.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
23. They are so much better off without Sandusky but I hope this verdict and
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jun 2012

next, the sentencing, will wake up other corrupt institutions. I really think others in the Penn State admin should have been charged because this horror went on for 15 years and in the showers on Penn State's campus no less.

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