all of it's vast resources, can afford the Medicare cost curve. So his solution is to give a 72 year old senior on a fixed income a fixed amount and hope that senior on a fixed income can keep up with the Medicare cost curve where the government couldn't. Of course Ryan's plan excludes the ever important Republican demographic that is the current seniors.

Very similar to the GOP's use of the word entitlements, as if SS/Medicare/Medicaid are something we haven't earned by paying into them for years.

We laugh at the people who don't realize that the Affordable Care Act and Obamacare are the same thing. But it just shows that the GOP framing won.

Pukes deserve to have it rubbed in their faces.

President Obama took control of its framing when he said, "they're calling it Obamacare. I like that."

As Obamacare becomes larger on everyone's radar due to repuke corruption, people are becoming more aware, more protective of it.

That support extends to Pres Obama and will impact the perceptions of many trumpanzees.

And there will always be a percentage that are untraceable.
I sure don't want to water down any messages for their benefit.

We might like it but the GOP base hears it and gets all frothy in the mouth. The key is to take control of the language in a way that will resonate with the most people.

No...I think we need to keep calling it Obamacare. Now that the Republicans realize that they actually love it, I want it to be associated with Obama!

K to the R,

makes it to 92, imagine how good she'll be at dealing with coupons and in-networks and out-of-networks and formularies and co-pays and deductibles and who knows what all else they can cook up so that the HMO CEO can buy his kid another Beemer.

seniors, especially those with cognitive impairments and other frailties of advanced age, will not be able to negotiate the complexity and will be thoroughly screwed over.

After retirement, I was wandering in uncharted territory when I had to choose medical (supplementary) and dental plans. I ended up making errors in choosing dental insurance because of the complications with various plans, who is providing which specific plan, and who isn't. Insurance companies offer several identical plans to multiple "networks", but a medical/dental service provider might not sign up for all but one. That stipulation isn't often clear to the inexperienced consumer, and can make a big difference in how much the consumer has to pay-- whether in or out of network. The difference could be in hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands.

This complication exists for those with full mental capacity but no experience in understanding how insurance and networks operate. To an advanced senior who might not have the intellectual acumen to navigate his/her way into the best options, the situation is a lot worse.

While private insurance is 20%. Medicare expenditures in 2011 were $549 billion. The push for privatization isn't because the "invisible hand of the market" is better. It is so that Heath insurance CEOs can skim $110 billion off the top every year.

Insurers are required by law to spend 80% of premium income on medically directed outlays, not overhead.

Repeal the ACA and the skimming could be even bigger.

Pukes. Lord how I hate them.

because that's all they are.

And when people think of coupons, they think of small amounts of money -- which is what seniors would be getting eventually if we switched to that system.

I've been doing this for YEARS!

About time you other slowpokes catch up.

That's the Republican medical plan.

folks are called vouchers. They are distinctly different things.

Section 8 of the Housing Act of 1937 (42 U.S.C. § 1437f), often called Section 8, as repeatedly amended, authorizes the payment of rental housing assistance to private landlords on behalf of approximately 4.8 million low-income households, as of 2008,[1] in the United States. The largest part of the section is the Housing Choice Voucher program which pays a large portion of the rents and utilities of about 2.1 million households. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development manages Section 8 programs.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing)

Where are they, and do we need them?

This is an excellent example of how to frame an argument. The Republican pr 'experts' have been doing this for years. 'Death panels' is another example of this. Let's do this.

Great suggestion!

grab your wallet and run.

Something like that?

They have Frank Luntz. Who do we have? The Dems, as far as I can see, have failed to recognize the power of the RW propaganda machine and so have failed to put the proper resources into combating it.