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babylonsister

(171,099 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:36 AM Jan 2017

Pence claims 'over half' of women's march were Trump supporters

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-claims-over-half-of-womens-march-were-trump-supporters/ar-AAm9cMD

Pence claims 'over half' of women's march were Trump supporters
CAMERON JOSEPH
18 hrs ago


Vice President Mike Pence is getting in on the "alternative facts" fun.

Pence or his team made the claim that "well over half" of the huge crowds out protesting Trump's inauguration during Saturday's Women's March in Washington were actually fans of the new president in a Facebook post, the latest example of top Trump administration representatives choosing to misstate basic facts.

"Our Administration is proud to stand with American women and of our supporters' significant role in this cause. Despite the misleading Liberal Media's claims, we clearly saw that well over half of the participants in yesterday's march were Trump supporters," reads a post on Pence's official Facebook page posted on Sunday.

more...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-claims-over-half-of-womens-march-were-trump-supporters/ar-AAm9cMD

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Pence claims 'over half' of women's march were Trump supporters (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2017 OP
He polled each and every one of them SoCalNative Jan 2017 #1
Where the hell did he/they pull that one from??? jmg257 Jan 2017 #2
The same place in which they got million of illegals supposedly voting? LisaL Jan 2017 #7
He pulled it out of the anus that decorates Hair DrumpFuhrer's face. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #67
This is what they do.. coco22 Jan 2017 #99
another liar bdamomma Jan 2017 #3
pence rears his ugly head.. trumpLiars need to get their Cha Jan 2017 #4
Could we see some pictures or other evidence of their support? sinkingfeeling Jan 2017 #5
The proof? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #59
Duh, it's right here: demmiblue Jan 2017 #62
Looks like the Wall of Meat is spending a lot of time on the toilet! Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #70
Saw that with my own eyes, thanks for the pic. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #73
A wingnut made it up. That's proof to them. nt hvn_nbr_2 Jan 2017 #86
No I think the correct answer to that is zero. Initech Jan 2017 #6
The Loathing Is Likely So Intense. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #9
And how well they disguised themselves in those pink pussy hats! femmocrat Jan 2017 #8
they're jealous.. they want in on the action after their pitiful Cha Jan 2017 #10
So he's claiming that a lot of Trump supporters simply showed up on the wrong day. tanyev Jan 2017 #27
Yeah.. whatever it takes to Cha Jan 2017 #31
They were afraid of the yuuuge crowds expected at the inauguration, so they thought they'd wait. n/t woodsprite Jan 2017 #38
This is so pitiful. Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #45
The folks in the stands are his Peanut Gallery. He took them to the CIA meeting. They cheered wildly Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #71
Then he should show us their signs. Croney Jan 2017 #11
Alternative facts: "pence" is the old English plural for "penis" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2017 #12
So, Rancid Penis is the Chief of Staff and VP is Penis WhiteTara Jan 2017 #54
I call bullsh** on it. pence likes alternate facts as much as trump and the shraby Jan 2017 #13
"When youre about to get run out of town on a rail, get out in front and call it a parade". eom Tanuki Jan 2017 #14
WTF....this how they want to spin this now??? Docreed2003 Jan 2017 #15
I am horrified Generator Jan 2017 #89
It's either that, or he's just as morally bankrupt as Trump Docreed2003 Jan 2017 #102
No, he probably said it as cover for Trump, to calm him down. haele Jan 2017 #110
Great. They're both fucking nuts. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #16
Remember pence.. Cha Jan 2017 #17
But such a Christian one! Laurian Jan 2017 #26
It takes a certain type of man sarge43 Jan 2017 #69
It's an alternative fact! frazzled Jan 2017 #18
words fail me cyclonefence Jan 2017 #21
Perfection. narnian60 Jan 2017 #66
Good thing we took pictures--a sea of signs ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #19
They are not going to stop with their "alternative facts" liberal N proud Jan 2017 #20
I wish I was living in an alternative universe. This one sucks. LisaL Jan 2017 #22
I hope the people in Trump's regime have a large budget for wardrobe mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #23
You lie! CottonBear Jan 2017 #24
This is why the impeachment of Trump won't really do jack shit for America. bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #25
One step at a time. Mc Mike Jan 2017 #48
I can guess how they came to this conclusion: red hats justiceischeap Jan 2017 #28
He is a lying con artist too-but sneakier and more insidious wolf in sheep's clothing wishstar Jan 2017 #29
Recent lies from Mike Pence: dalton99a Jan 2017 #30
He's a bigger liar then tRump SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #36
But..but...he goes to Church every Sunday! workinclasszero Jan 2017 #65
Eh, no. Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #32
No they did not exclude them. Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #42
I personally think that this is why they wanted to march with the big protest n2doc Jan 2017 #44
That is exactly what they wanted. Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #93
And "Periods FOR Pence" is nothing but supporters Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #33
Yep including all wearing pink hats malaise Jan 2017 #34
OK. I buy it. OilemFirchen Jan 2017 #35
I was at the march in Indy.... his own state. Pence is a fucking liar. Adrahil Jan 2017 #37
LOL Denzil_DC Jan 2017 #39
That is hillarious. Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #40
he said they had pictures to prove it onethatcares Jan 2017 #41
you have to ask yourself bigtree Jan 2017 #43
I think it's the old rethug playbook in action: babylonsister Jan 2017 #47
I think we might be at a point bigtree Jan 2017 #53
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #107
Yes indeed, they are already having second thoughts Dem2 Jan 2017 #46
pence can claim all the shit he wants.... spanone Jan 2017 #49
hey Mikey crazycatlady Jan 2017 #50
This gets worse cilla4progress Jan 2017 #51
Right, because so many pro-dRumpf orgs were involved in planning the march, Mc Mike Jan 2017 #52
the ones that weren't paid and trucked in by Soros of course JDC Jan 2017 #55
This is the North Korea level shit talk elehhhhna Jan 2017 #56
More 'Alternative Facts' from the Trump administration. MineralMan Jan 2017 #57
At our March I saw 1 Trump supporter TNLib Jan 2017 #58
Stroking someone's ego, Pence? What a pathetic little man Drumpfelthinskin is. catbyte Jan 2017 #60
Alternate facts again from the Ministry of Truth workinclasszero Jan 2017 #61
Buyer's Remorse, Perhaps? anniebelle Jan 2017 #63
Wow, seriously delusional. They're really going all out with their alternative facts. -Steph- Jan 2017 #64
You mean they've turned against Trump? bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #68
The coin of the new realm? DemoTex Jan 2017 #72
They're adopting a strategy of complete rejection of empirical reality. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #74
It worked for hate radio workinclasszero Jan 2017 #100
He's a lying sack of shit. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #75
Trump won white women, over half the crowd were white women, bigbrother05 Jan 2017 #76
Yes because when a woman has a sign that says "this pussy grabs back" it's because she likes you. Happyhippychick Jan 2017 #77
And 'over half' the people attending you shindig the previous day were Trump protesters Brother Buzz Jan 2017 #78
O. M. G. - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2017 #79
Okay, I'll buy that... DISGRUNTLED dump supporters!! Thekaspervote Jan 2017 #80
Among over 200,000 marchers in Boston C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #81
Hey dimwit, if you are so great to women, why would your own supporters march denouncing you? appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #82
That's an alternative fact!!! nt longship Jan 2017 #83
Saturday's women's march was to welcome Trump Pence IronLionZion Jan 2017 #84
They counted? louis-t Jan 2017 #85
Marched in LA - There were no Trump supporters mommymarine2003 Jan 2017 #87
This is the lie they're telling Trump to mollify him? herding cats Jan 2017 #88
They'll Say Anything!! Ccarmona Jan 2017 #90
I see he's working on his lying skills... dhill926 Jan 2017 #91
Pence is a very stupid person Gothmog Jan 2017 #92
Link says article is no longer available. wildeyed Jan 2017 #94
True in spirit, but fake news saditurn Jan 2017 #95
Apparently Mike didn't bother to read the signs. Vinca Jan 2017 #96
"Sorry, this article is no longer available" It appears that this article has been japple Jan 2017 #97
How would he know? LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #98
Sure Mike. Linc13 Jan 2017 #101
Pence, just Pence. BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #103
Okay, let's say they did. All the women want to keep their rights as citizens, no matter who they Hestia Jan 2017 #104
Bogus Pence page caraher Jan 2017 #105
That article has been scrubbed from the MSN japple Jan 2017 #106
i think they are trying to get trump to calm down JI7 Jan 2017 #108
"Well over half" says the pasty faced Pomeranian. oasis Jan 2017 #109
So, Pence proves that he, too, is crazy and delusional. blue neen Jan 2017 #111
I don't think Pence or his staff said this. It was either a hoax or satire... tandem5 Jan 2017 #112
PRoblem is every time they make one of these crazy statements, their base believes is and right wing Amaryllis Jan 2017 #113

coco22

(1,258 posts)
99. This is what they do..
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jan 2017

and have been doing it for decades. They took over just about all of the radio stations and all of the host spout the same message with adifferent twist on it,whatever the it is. they even have the same thing broadcasting at the same time on 2 or 3 stations like sports or some other nonsense. Lie,lie,lie,lie,LIE! just like their President.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
4. pence rears his ugly head.. trumpLiars need to get their
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jan 2017

stories straight.. kac was pushing the lie that they were protesting President Obama on Sunday.

demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
62. Duh, it's right here:
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jan 2017


See, it's the 200,000 strong 'wall of meat' (This, indeed, was taken on Saturday in D.C.).

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
70. Looks like the Wall of Meat is spending a lot of time on the toilet!
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jan 2017

What are they doing? Waiting for the next wave of diarrhea?

woodsprite

(11,929 posts)
38. They were afraid of the yuuuge crowds expected at the inauguration, so they thought they'd wait. n/t
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jan 2017

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
71. The folks in the stands are his Peanut Gallery. He took them to the CIA meeting. They cheered wildly
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jan 2017

Croney

(4,671 posts)
11. Then he should show us their signs.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jan 2017

There were hundreds of thousands of pro-Trump signs at the marches world-wide! Oddly, none got in any pictures. Conspiracy I'm sure.

Docreed2003

(16,878 posts)
15. WTF....this how they want to spin this now???
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jan 2017

Unbelievable bullshit...it doesn't help that the media, in some cases, failed to call this a protest march against Trump. I saw protests across the world and I didn't see anyone in those crowds who was marching in solidarity with Trump or his fucked up agenda.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
89. I am horrified
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jan 2017

Wondering if Pence is also under Trump's thumb? Tell the lies or else???? I feel more fear every day.

haele

(12,682 posts)
110. No, he probably said it as cover for Trump, to calm him down.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jan 2017

If he believes half the marchers in DC were Trump supporters, Trump can tell himself that he had a majority of supporters showing up over Friday and Saturday.
The other reason he said it was that as Goebbels said "If you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth".

Pence was just being his usual hypocritical mealy-mouthed self.

Haele


mnhtnbb

(31,407 posts)
23. I hope the people in Trump's regime have a large budget for wardrobe
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:52 AM
Jan 2017

because their pants seem to be on fire constantly from all the lies.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
28. I can guess how they came to this conclusion: red hats
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jan 2017

Some enterprising entrepreneurs were selling red hats with "WTF America" on them. A lot of people were sporting those.

wishstar

(5,272 posts)
29. He is a lying con artist too-but sneakier and more insidious wolf in sheep's clothing
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jan 2017

Maybe this blatant lie from him will open some eyes including with the media, that he is dishonest too. In the VP debate he deflected and would not answer truthfully when Kaine confronted him over Twitlers' hateful remarks.

Also, R's don't like that many marchers exhibited patriotism and support for friendly National Guard who were there and we know the Repubs like to think only they are true patriotic Americans.

dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
30. Recent lies from Mike Pence:
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:02 AM
Jan 2017
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mike-pence/statements/byruling/false/

"State Department officials actually directed contracts for the Haitian recovery after the earthquake to friends of the Clintons."

Says Donald Trump "hasn’t broken his promise" to release his tax returns.

"10 cents on the dollar from the Clinton Foundation goes to charitable causes."

"Donald Trump’s been completely consistent" about his plan for nonviolent undocumented immigrants.

Says Hillary Clinton "took 13 hours to send help to Americans under fire" during the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

"Anybody who is familiar with the historical data from the IRS knows that raising income tax rates will likely actually reduce federal revenues."

"Should Democrats get their way, every income tax bracket will increase on Jan. 1, 2011. Every single one."

"This administration and this Congress have been systematically cutting funding to border security since the Democrats took control."

The Democrats propose "a government-controlled health care plan that will deprive roughly 120 million Americans of their current health care coverage."

The stimulus has "$30 million in there to protect mice in San Francisco."

Baitball Blogger

(46,763 posts)
32. Eh, no.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

Didn't the organizers omit anti-abortion organizations? I know a couple of my Facebook friends felt excluded. They didn't completely understand the political purpose behind the march. One even posted a meme "Let's be clear, this isn't all woman."

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
42. No they did not exclude them.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jan 2017

They could march and a few did. However, they were not allowed to plan the march...and I tell you women who don't support choice regardless of how they feel about abortion do not belong at a woman's march. If I had my last miscarriage with the current laws, I would be dead. As it was the right to life docs in Georgia let me bleed out and I nearly died...waiting for hormonal proof I had miscarried even though the ultrasound clear showed I had. This is a healthcare issue...and women who don't support choice are not on our side.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
44. I personally think that this is why they wanted to march with the big protest
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jan 2017

So that they could obfuscate the true size of their movement. And this is exactly what Pence is trying to do.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
93. That is exactly what they wanted.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jan 2017

I saw three. who shouted about save the babies but of course after they are born, let them die by denying health care..and they were shouted down...I saw no one that liked Trump based on signs or rhetoric.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
37. I was at the march in Indy.... his own state. Pence is a fucking liar.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:17 AM
Jan 2017

When his name was mentioned, HUGE boos. Anti-Trump signs everywhere.

I did not see a single pro-Trump sign, shirt, whatever. Not one.

Fucking liars and the lies they tell!

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
40. That is hillarious.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jan 2017

There were many issues looking at the signs...but as far as I could see...everyone hated Trump with a passion. There were no Trump supporters.

onethatcares

(16,192 posts)
41. he said they had pictures to prove it
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:21 AM
Jan 2017

but they were wiped off the shithouse website immediately after posting.

bigtree

(86,006 posts)
43. you have to ask yourself
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jan 2017

...who is really swayed by this nonsense of his.

There's a line which the Trump folks have crossed some time ago between opinion and reality. They really don't seem to recognize the difference.

babylonsister

(171,099 posts)
47. I think it's the old rethug playbook in action:
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jan 2017

repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth (to them). This is a biggie though; too many people know better.

bigtree

(86,006 posts)
53. I think we might be at a point
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jan 2017

...where actual truth out of their mouths would shock most folks.

I do think the right wing relies on that tactic for talking points, but their game is growing stale and predictable, more folks than ever calling them on it immediately.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
52. Right, because so many pro-dRumpf orgs were involved in planning the march,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jan 2017

so many rally speakers made statements that backed drumpf's initiatives up. I was especially moved by the dRumpf inspired statements backing Black Lives Matters, Women's Rights, Moslem Rights, LGBTQIA Rights, Immigrant Rights, etc.

Pence is a bircher nazi weasel.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
56. This is the North Korea level shit talk
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jan 2017

I'm rather surprised that they're just lying their asses off and destroying their credibility so quickly. Shouldn't be , but I'm flabbergasted.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
57. More 'Alternative Facts' from the Trump administration.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jan 2017

I suppose this is going to be routine. Something happens that everyone can see for themselves, and then The TA says the exact opposite of what is obviously true. Uff da!

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
58. At our March I saw 1 Trump supporter
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jan 2017

He was wearing a silly red baseball trump hat and screaming USA as he ran by the marchers. He looked like a cartoon character.
He was the only counter protester I saw. I was very worried about counter protest since I live in Southeast TN. Needless to say I shouldn't have worried.

catbyte

(34,472 posts)
60. Stroking someone's ego, Pence? What a pathetic little man Drumpfelthinskin is.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

I can't help but think how much it must suck to be him. Can you imagine? To have all that he has and it's still not enough. Like I said, how goddamn pathetic.

anniebelle

(899 posts)
63. Buyer's Remorse, Perhaps?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

Where the hell do they get these "alternate facts"? This whole dRump fiasco is making my head swim.

Crunchy Frog

(26,659 posts)
74. They're adopting a strategy of complete rejection of empirical reality.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

The're in the testing phase of seeing just how brazen they can be and get away with it.

An interesting social experiment, I guess.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
100. It worked for hate radio
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:15 PM
Jan 2017

YouTube is full of nazi/Hitler defenders that deny the Holocaust ever happened as well.

Now the lies are coming straight out of the Oval office and the halls of the Republican controlled Congress.

Are we f**ked or what?

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
76. Trump won white women, over half the crowd were white women,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jan 2017

therefore over half were Trump supporters!

Come on, thought liberals were supposed to understand logic and facts.



Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
77. Yes because when a woman has a sign that says "this pussy grabs back" it's because she likes you.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

Liar, liar, liar.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
78. And 'over half' the people attending you shindig the previous day were Trump protesters
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jan 2017

"There are three four kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, statistics, and alternative facts." - Mark Twain

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
82. Hey dimwit, if you are so great to women, why would your own supporters march denouncing you?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

You are not only a liar, your lie does not make any sense. If you are going to lie, at least try something that is plausible.

IronLionZion

(45,547 posts)
84. Saturday's women's march was to welcome Trump Pence
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jan 2017

since women love Trump and Pence so much it hurts, literally. That they flew and drove many miles to show their support.

The lackluster Friday activities with low turnout were the liberals and feminists being triggered from leaving their safe spaces.

The violence on Friday was also caused by liberal women and feminists masquerading as white male anarchists. Smashing windows and pulling bricks out of the sidewalk and throwing them is a long standing feminist tradition that comes from not spending enough time barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.



How's that for some alternate facts?

On a related note, we just had a dude at work go on paternity leave. Some of my coworkers are like WTF, what sort of man takes paternity leave. But I was like you go dude, be a dad!

mommymarine2003

(261 posts)
87. Marched in LA - There were no Trump supporters
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jan 2017

I marched in the LA March. I did not encounter any Trump people, not even along the parade route. Someone did fly over with a banner supporting Trump. This new administration spreads nothing but propaganda.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
90. They'll Say Anything!!
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

It's statistically impossible for Pence's statement to be true.
FACTS DONT MATTER ANYMORE.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
94. Link says article is no longer available.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jan 2017

Did the Ministry of Truth decide on new alternate facts today?

saditurn

(3 posts)
95. True in spirit, but fake news
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jan 2017

I had a friend who forwarded this on yesterday also and my knee jerk reaction was the same - but then I looked at the source Facebook account which was definitely fake (satire? malicious?).

Looks like it's gone today (it was like VPMikePence instead of just MikePence), and the article above has also been removed.

I'm sure there are people on the right will justify the marches to themselves this way (trumP easily would), but we need to be careful about what we chase after.

Pence, to his credit (and our discredit?) will be well-spoken and smooth, and his delusions will not be so obvious. Unfortunately.

japple

(9,844 posts)
97. "Sorry, this article is no longer available" It appears that this article has been
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jan 2017

scrubbed. Did anyone see the Pence fb post that "well over half" of the huge crowds out protesting Trump's inauguration during Saturday's Women's March in Washington were actually fans of the new president."

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
98. How would he know?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jan 2017

And anyway, if that many Trump voters had changed their minds in that short a space of time, all the better!!!

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
104. Okay, let's say they did. All the women want to keep their rights as citizens, no matter who they
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:50 PM
Jan 2017

voted for. That you can't quibble about!

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
112. I don't think Pence or his staff said this. It was either a hoax or satire...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:41 PM
Jan 2017

not that I would put it past them to attempt such a claim.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
113. PRoblem is every time they make one of these crazy statements, their base believes is and right wing
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jan 2017

media repeats it as fact. This is how we get parallel universes that never intersect.

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