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PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:21 PM Jan 2017

No sympathy for Melania Trump. She pushed the birtherism lie as well

On an appearance on Joy Behar's show in 2011, Melania repeats the lies about Obama's birth certificate that her husband was promoting. She is no victim. Check out her comments beginning at the 1:37 mark.

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No sympathy for Melania Trump. She pushed the birtherism lie as well (Original Post) PA Democrat Jan 2017 OP
Apparently money means more to her than self respect. He treats her like an afterthought when he appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #1
That, and looking good, is her job world wide wally Jan 2017 #2
looking good ? lul fake as hell just like trump. stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #21
Twins Scarsdale Jan 2017 #35
And trying not to laugh .. jb5150 Jan 2017 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #3
I don't think she is very bright. madaboutharry Jan 2017 #4
Single memorized track: he's passionate about the country. JudyM Jan 2017 #10
There are DOZENS of other things she could have said and still not contradict him Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #37
Do you usually ask about the political beliefs of domestic violence victims before deciding whether RedWedge Jan 2017 #5
Is she asking for help? KittyWampus Jan 2017 #12
Do all victims ask for help? RedWedge Jan 2017 #17
We don't know if she's a "victim" and diagnosing her situation is impossible for outsiders. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #18
"Let her be a cautionary tale." RedWedge Jan 2017 #22
Parents Scarsdale Jan 2017 #32
There is no proof she is a victim of domestic violence. PA Democrat Jan 2017 #43
No sympathy from me. None. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #6
I don't know that there's any evidence of abuse, as opposed to just being hitched to a total JudyM Jan 2017 #9
She's bound to have known what he was like before she married him. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #15
He certainly doesn't act like a guy who's trying to connect with and please his partner. JudyM Jan 2017 #16
Limelight Scarsdale Jan 2017 #33
Can't argue with you there. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #42
Abuse can be emotional and verbal..... llmart Jan 2017 #25
What are the clear signs you're referring to? You say that because she doesn't smile in his JudyM Jan 2017 #28
None MFM008 Jan 2017 #7
I've never had any sympathy for her LeftInTX Jan 2017 #8
No, no sympathy. She could walk out on him anytime, Luz Jan 2017 #11
When you marry for money, you earn every penny. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #13
Forget your BC,I want to see your WORK VISA when you came here Mrs. Trophy.....n/t Bengus81 Jan 2017 #14
She will never produce her immigration paperwork, just like Shitler will never produce his taxes. SunSeeker Jan 2017 #19
I agree. To hell with her. Paladin Jan 2017 #20
I've never had any sympathy for any rich person elmac Jan 2017 #23
Eva Trump Generator Jan 2017 #24
Child support Scarsdale Jan 2017 #36
She is also suing a blogger for $25 million for "vicious lies." BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #26
I don't wish her ill get the red out Jan 2017 #27
She's a Proud Daughter of American Patriots! snort Jan 2017 #29
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #30
Indeed she did, but even for it weren't for that, I'd still give zero fucks about her. onecaliberal Jan 2017 #31
none at all heaven05 Jan 2017 #34
She has no self-respect or she wouldn't still be with him after everything that's come out. lark Jan 2017 #38
Yeah fuck her uponit7771 Jan 2017 #40
My social media feeds lakercub Jan 2017 #41

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
1. Apparently money means more to her than self respect. He treats her like an afterthought when he
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jan 2017

notices her existence at all. She is simply a decoration he drags around to show the world how manly HE is. She tolerates that behavior so why would anyone feel sorry for her?

Response to PA Democrat (Original post)

madaboutharry

(40,234 posts)
4. I don't think she is very bright.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not going to defend this. Her discussion with Joy Behar is disgraceful. However, do you think she would go on television and contradict her husband? She probably is afraid of him.

"When you marry for money, you earn every penny."

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
37. There are DOZENS of other things she could have said and still not contradict him
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:07 PM
Jan 2017

But she didn't .

She's a deplorable racist, just like her faux-gold sugar-daddy.

RedWedge

(618 posts)
5. Do you usually ask about the political beliefs of domestic violence victims before deciding whether
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jan 2017

they deserve help or not?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. We don't know if she's a "victim" and diagnosing her situation is impossible for outsiders.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jan 2017

Let her be a cautionary tale.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Parents
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:48 PM
Jan 2017

I want to know how her parents got into the US, since they were Communist Party members. Her father was in a leadership position in their local party. They live at tRump Tower now. Who helped them get visas to come here to iive? Is the father the connection between tRump and Vlad? Why does she still speak broken English after all these years? Does she only converse with her parents? If she speaks 5 languages as claimed, why isn't one of them English???

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
43. There is no proof she is a victim of domestic violence.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jan 2017

My use of the term "victim" was in reference to having to put up with Trump's obnoxious behavior in general. Cheating on your spouse is not domestic violence. Not waiting to escort your wife is not domestic violence.

And NO I don't feel that people with differing political beliefs don't deserve help if they are true victims of domestic violence.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
6. No sympathy from me. None.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jan 2017

She's in it for the money. That's the way I see it.

IF a woman happened to be in a domestic violence situation and needed to safely leave that situation, I would think having 24-hour Secret Service Protection would probably make that safe to do. We don't know that she is abused, and the fact that she chooses to stay is her decision. I'll reserve my sympathy and understanding to less fortunate women who might not have the ability to leave a bad relationship.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
9. I don't know that there's any evidence of abuse, as opposed to just being hitched to a total
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jan 2017

narcissistic a$$hole. A lot of women are married to awful people who don't treat them respectfully and lovingly, but that's not the definition of abuse.

I would like to know what evidence there is of her acting abused, as opposed to just feeling alienated, unhappy and much less powerful than him...

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
15. She's bound to have known what he was like before she married him.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

I totally agree with your post. I don't think she is "abused" in the "normal" sense (for lack of a better way to frame my argument). She may be unhappy, but that's not abused. She may be lonely, but that's not abused. She may not have wanted the limelight, but that's not abuse.

I mean, she is his THIRD wife and there is plenty of information out there about how he treated his first two wives. She's bound to have known what she was getting into.

The fact that she has chosen to live apart from him is telling to me. I don't buy the idea that it is for the benefit of their minor son. I think it is her decision and her desire to be away from him. It may be mutual with both Melania and Trump feeling that way. After all, they've been married for over a decade, and his history is that he likes a newer model (pun intended) at some point.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
16. He certainly doesn't act like a guy who's trying to connect with and please his partner.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jan 2017

His heart is out of it.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
33. Limelight
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:52 PM
Jan 2017

Well, she certainly wanted the limelight when she was posing nude for the lesbian porn shoots.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
42. Can't argue with you there.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jan 2017

You're right.

I have a feeling that's going to be a constant source of concern for the administration, too, and very well may be part of the decision to keep her out of the White House.

llmart

(15,557 posts)
25. Abuse can be emotional and verbal.....
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jan 2017

and most narcissists like to practice the emotional and verbal abuse. The more they can denigrate, humiliate and marginalize someone, the more powerful they feel.

If you ask me, she shows clear signs of being emotionally abused. She rarely smiles in his presence.

However, I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. It's not like she couldn't divorce him and walk away with enough money for the rest of her life. No one would blame her if she left him.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
28. What are the clear signs you're referring to? You say that because she doesn't smile in his
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jan 2017

presence?

LeftInTX

(25,607 posts)
8. I've never had any sympathy for her
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jan 2017

She's an adult.
She is not a victim.

I could see if she was showing signs of distress, but all I see is Trump doing stupid things like walking ahead of her.

She has some awkward facial expressions, but they could be do to age, botox, stress, squinting because she needs glasses, anxiousness over all the pomp and protocol.

Other than that, she manages to have perfect hair, perfect clothes and a perfect figure. She obviously finds time to take care of herself. She looks a lot happier than the average frazzled 45 year old housewife who is trying to juggle kids and a full-time job.

Luz

(772 posts)
11. No, no sympathy. She could walk out on him anytime,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

but apparently can't walk out on his money. Poor little rich girl all alone in her golden palace.

Paladin

(28,277 posts)
20. I agree. To hell with her.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jan 2017

Her days as mrs. donald trump are numbered, like all the rest of his wives. Happy landings, melania.....

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
23. I've never had any sympathy for any rich person
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:01 PM
Jan 2017

only disdain. To accumulate more money then you can spend in several lifetimes is a clear sign of a sociopath.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
24. Eva Trump
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jan 2017

Eva Braun was no hero in history neither. Just saying. If you sleep with evil you are evil. Yeah she's a mother-so just giving birth gives you a free pass? I don't think so.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
36. Child support
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jan 2017

These gold diggers have babies for the child support. Marla Maples did it, too. Marla did not wait until they were married, either.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
27. I don't wish her ill
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

But it doesn't appear that their marriage is a happy one. I am sure she has to obey his every wish to get that golden parachute when their marriage ends. Maybe she looks unhappy because she could have gotten out of it sooner if he had lost the election?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
34. none at all
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jan 2017

she made her own 'bed' let her sleep and puke in it....she's no 'victim' so far...but I saw how the boy-potus treated her throughout the inauguration.....he was pretty mean to her......

lark

(23,166 posts)
38. She has no self-respect or she wouldn't still be with him after everything that's come out.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:16 PM
Jan 2017

She's a low level porno actor who parlayed being a skinny illegal alien with big tits into being a golddigger. She has no class, no morals and she's every bit the liar her hubby is. I don't feel sorry for her at all, she got exactly what she asked for.

lakercub

(659 posts)
41. My social media feeds
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jan 2017

I freely admit I don't know much about Melania and I can't think right now why I should go out of my way to find anything out. I will leave Barron alone completely and I tend to leave the spouses of politicians alone too unless they really put themselves out there, at which point they are fair game. But, based on her behavior so far, I think Melania will be mostly a non-entity and won't inspire me to get too worked up.

But it's unbelievable how the right-wingers on my social media feeds right now are praising her up and down. To my certain knowledge, they know no more about her life than I do, yet every picture is an excuse to go on about how classy she is, how wonderful she is. So far I really only know three things about her.

1. She married a well-known womanizing narcissist. I can only speculate as to her reasons, and, in and of itself, it does not denote a lack of class, but it certainly doesn't make one classy (though I don't have to work too hard to think of highly un-classy reasons she would have married him).

2. She was a model who featured in many scantily clad photoshoots. Hey, her body, her choice. If that's what she wanted, it's not for me to say anything about it one way or the other. But it certainly doesn't fit in with the typical right wing definition of class.

3. Her only major speech was plagiarized. How much is her fault? Probably not much, but it certainly isn't favorable. And it sure as hell isn't "classy."

So my assumption is that they think she's classy because she looks good, dresses in expensive clothes, and she doesn't look like the last first lady. I'm forced to conclude that, based on the evidence, they feel rich, attractive, and white equals class. Based on what I know about most of these right-wingers, I think I nailed it.

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