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Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:58 AM Jun 2012

18 Reasons the Affordable Care Act Was the Greatest Achievement for the Middle Class Since Medicare

Last edited Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:56 AM - Edit history (1)

Apologies if this was posted before now:

http://eclectablog.com/2012/06/18-reasons-the-affordable-care-act-is-the-greatest-achievement-for-the-middle-class-since-medicare.html

1. A Harvard study found that 45,000 Americans die every year for lack of insurance.
2. After a century of trying, President Obama was the first president to sign a law that would achieve near universal health insurance coverage.
3. For the first time, health insurers are required to spend 80 to 85 percent of customers’ premiums on actual care (see first link below). More than $1.3 billion in overcharges (see second link below) will be returned to consumers and employers this year.
4. The law allows many Americans under age 26 to stay on their parents’ health plans. Today, as many as three million young people have already taken advantage of this benefit.


Those are the first four. There are 14 more at the link.

Here's hoping that past tense in the title is not necessary. I reproduced the title as is. If the ACA stands tomorrow, I'll change it to the present tense.

ETA: I just noticed two links aren't working in the excerpt. They are here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/02/the-bomb-buried-in-obamacare-explodes-today-halleluja/

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2012/04/30/245209.htm
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18 Reasons the Affordable Care Act Was the Greatest Achievement for the Middle Class Since Medicare (Original Post) Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 OP
The 'middle class' is dead leftstreet Jun 2012 #1
K & R n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #2
K&R! eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #3
Just because a bill has some good, doesn't make it "good". Lionessa Jun 2012 #4
Actually, ProSense Jun 2012 #5
I'm sorry, madam, but I do not find your sources as being reliable. Lionessa Jun 2012 #8
In other words ProSense Jun 2012 #9
I typed clearly. Good day. Lionessa Jun 2012 #10
Ah, jeez, I just read that Roberts didn't say today was the last day of the term. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #6
Yeah, it's better than nothing. Quantess Jun 2012 #7
We know what will happen by looking at MA eridani Jun 2012 #11

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
1. The 'middle class' is dead
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:16 AM
Jun 2012

Not much in that Health Insurance and Pharmaceutical Profit Protection Plan for the working classes.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
4. Just because a bill has some good, doesn't make it "good".
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:23 AM
Jun 2012

And just looking at #1 reminds me that ACA doesn't come close to providing HEALTH CARE for upwards of half of the 45million who didn't have insurance in 2009.

Additionally as so many public sector employees being laid off and so many private still un- or under-employed since 2009, I would guess that on some levels of the half mentioned above that should've been able benefit from ACA, now can't because any insurance is unaffordable.

Lastly if anyone should get high credit for the good things in ACA, it's Pelosi, not Obama. Pelosi fought the good fight right to the end, Obama rolled over on day one.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Actually,
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:36 AM
Jun 2012

"Just because a bill has some good, doesn't make it "good"...Lastly if anyone should get high credit for the good things in ACA, it's Pelosi, not Obama. Pelosi fought the good fight right to the end, Obama rolled over on day one."

...that's inaccurate. The bill will cover 95 percent (the current level is 83 percent) initially. Expect that number to grow when states like Vermont enact single payer: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=853122

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. In other words
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:10 AM
Jun 2012

"I'm sorry, madam, but I do not find your sources as being reliable."

...you're going to ignore the facts. Let's try again,

The bill will cover 95 percent (the current level is 83 percent) initially. Expect that number to grow when states like Vermont enact single payer. Sources:

State single payer waiver provisions in the Senate healthcare bill - legislative language and fact sheet from Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders

Why the 1332 Waiver in the Senate Health Reform Bill is the Only Opportunity for State Single Payer Systems Under the Bill

The health care reform bill passed by the Senate requires that all states set up Exchanges through which private insurance companies could sell their plans. Because federal laws preempt state laws, the federal health care reform bill would supplant any state attempt to set up a single payer system in lieu of an Exchange, which by its nature calls for multiple payers to compete. If the Senate bill is enacted, the only opportunity for states to move toward a single payer system is found in Section 1332. This section would allow a state with a plan that meets certain coverage and affordability requirements to waive out of the requirement to set up an Exchange for private insurance companies. Only with such a waiver could a state move in the direction of a single payer system.

- more -

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2010/march/state-single-payer-waiver-provisions-in-the-senate-healthcare-bill-legislative-langu


Release: President Endorses State Waiver Proposal

Vermont Delegation and Gov. Shumlin Hail Obama Endorsement of State Health Reform Waiver Legislation

WASHINGTON, Feb. 28 - The Vermont congressional delegation and Gov. Peter Shumlin today hailed President Obama's endorsement of legislation allowing states to provide better health care at a lower cost starting in 2014.

At a meeting of the National Governors Association Monday morning, Obama announced his support for amending the Affordable Care Act to allow states like Vermont to seek a federal waiver to the new law three years earlier than currently allowed. States would be required to design plans that are at least as comprehensive and affordable as the federal model and cover at least as many people

Last month Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) introduced in the Senate and Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) introduced in the House legislation that would advance the date waivers would be accepted from 2017 to 2014. The three joined Gov. Shumlin at a Montpelier press conference to announce the legislation, which would provide Vermont the flexibility it needs to adopt reforms Shumlin is pursuing.

Leahy said, "This is a wise decision that keeps in focus the goal of continually improving health care in America. I applaud President Obama and Secretary Sebelius for supporting efforts by Vermont and other states to go above and beyond what the Affordable Care Act requires. They know that the federal government does not have a monopoly on good ideas, and innovations by the states will prove - and improve --- the benefits of health insurance reform, on the ground, and in practice. While some in Washington want to turn the clock back and repeal the new health reform law, Vermont and other states want to move ahead. Vermont has already been working hard to improve the state's system of health care, and passage of the delegation's waiver bill will move our state one step closer to that goal."

Sanders said, "At a time when 50 million Americans lack health insurance and when the cost of health care continues to soar, it is my strong hope that Vermont will lead the nation in a new direction through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer approach. I am delighted that President Obama announced today that he will, in fact, support allowing states to innovate with health coverage models sooner rather than later. I worked hard to draft and secure the waiver provision in the health reform law and I am very pleased the president now agrees that we should make it available in 2014 as originally intended. While there is a lot of work to be done, I look forward to working with Sens. Leahy, Wyden, Inouye, Brown and others in the Senate and Rep. Welch and others in the House to get this done as soon as possible."

Welch said, "President Obama's support for allowing states to innovate sooner is a good news for Vermont and all states looking to tailor health care reform to individual states' circumstances. This legislation will give Vermont a green light to lead the nation in providing quality health care at a lower cost. I'm hopeful that Democrats and Republicans alike will support this practical step to give states flexibility to achieve progress their own way."

Shumlin said, "I was excited to learn about this today during a visit to the White House. All along officials from Health and Human Services have expressed a willingness to work with us, as long as we don't compromise standards under the law. I think this is an excellent example of how we can work together to control skyrocketing health care costs and implement meaningful health care reform as soon as possible."

A fact sheet on the delegation's "State Leadership in Healthcare Act" is available here.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=44a664de-8e92-43f4-a871-d26e0b5a252d


FACT SHEET

"State Leadership in Healthcare Act‟

Section 1332 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act – the “Waiver for State Innovation” – allows states to waiver out of some of the requirement of federal health reform if they meet certain standards. The provision in the new law was authored by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and strongly supported by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.).

The Sanders-Leahy-Welch “State Leadership in Healthcare Act” moves the availability of state waivers from 2017 to 2014. This would allow a state to avoid the expense of setting up an exchange – which is otherwise required in every state in 2014 – only to dismantle it later.

The federal waiver would allow a state to:

a) Collect all the federal funding and use for financing coverage for individuals through a plan designed by and for that state.
b) Coordinates this waiver process with Medicare, Medicaid and CHIP waiver processes that may be required depending on the design of the system. The state

The federal waiver would not allow a state to:
a) Offer lower quality or less affordable care to their residents than would be available in the exchange.
b) Obtain waivers from the health insurance market reforms implemented under the law such as those benefiting ending the use of pre-existing conditions to exclude individuals from coverage or those allowing young adults to stay on their parents’ plans longer.


How does the waiver provision of the law work?
Step 1: The state passes a law to provide health insurance to its citizens.
Step 2: The Secretary of Health and Human Services and Secretary of the Treasury review the state law and determine that the plan is:

a) At least as comprehensive as its residents would receive in the exchange;
b) At least as affordable;
c) Deficit neutral to the federal government; and,
d) Covers at least as many people.


Step 3: If the federal government finds that the alternative state system meets these requirements without certain federal rules, states can get a waiver. The state plan could receive waivers from:

a) The section requiring establishment of the exchange
b) The designs for how federal subsidies would have to reduce premiums and co-pays.
c) The employer penalty for providing coverage
d) The individual mandate.


http://www.sanders.senate.gov/graphics/011411state_waiver_fact_sheet.pdf


The Affordable Care Act: Supporting State Innovation
http://www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/2012/02/state-innovation02222012a.html


Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
6. Ah, jeez, I just read that Roberts didn't say today was the last day of the term.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:52 AM
Jun 2012

It's scheduled to be. But normally the Chief Justice says in the next-to-last session that the next session is the last one. He did not do that this time. So possibly, there could be more time.

They are making us crazy.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
7. Yeah, it's better than nothing.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:01 AM
Jun 2012

But single payer, it ain't. It's still not good enough for the American people.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
11. We know what will happen by looking at MA
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:59 AM
Jun 2012

Underinsurance does not prevent people from becoming bankrupt or dead. Medical bills still account for 50% of bankruptcies in MA--down from 59%. Death rates will likely go down as well, but not all that much.

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