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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:00 AM Jan 2017

Scientists, angry after being told to be quiet, are planning a march on Washington

Last edited Wed Jan 25, 2017, 05:42 PM - Edit history (9)

Scientists' March on Washington
The responsible application of science to government





Saturday, January 21, 2017

What is the Scientists' March on Washington

Welcome! We want to thank you all for your incredible outpouring of support for this march. We are working to schedule a March for Science on DC and across the United States. We have not settled on a date yet but will do so as quickly as possible and announce it here.

Although this will start with a march, we hope to use this as a starting point to take a stand for science in politics. Slashing funding and restricting scientists from communicating their findings (from tax-funded research!) with the public is absurd and cannot be allowed to stand as policy. This is a non-partisan issue that reaches far beyond people in the STEM fields and should concern anyone who believes in empirical research and science.

There are certain things that we accept as facts with no alternatives. The Earth is becoming warmer due to human action. The diversity of life arose by evolution. Politicians who devalue expertise risk making decisions that do not reflect reality and must be held accountable. An American government that ignores science to pursue ideological agendas endangers the world.

Please bear with us as pull together our mission statement and further details. Many more updates to come on Monday.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ScienceMarchDC
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1862739727343189/
Reddit: /r/scientistsmarch
Get Email Updates
To help: https://goo.gl/forms/zAdY02dBEz3Ykii42
Contact: scientistsmarchonwashington@gmail.com


Who can participate:
Anyone who believes in empirical science. That's it. That's the only requirement.


MORE:
http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/675592/scientists-are-planning-march-washington
http://www.nature.com/news/scientists-join-massive-protest-against-trump-1.21345

This is REAL Folks!
It's Growing As We Speak!

Check it out:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1862739727343189/


If you would like to help:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAJE3Tm8rFRtAyaZ_7fySER8Xi-AWMDEMlnj286ZG3Fp-TOQ/viewform?c=0&w=1

Good stuff here:
https://www.facebook.com/marchforscience/



mr pete is a microbiologist in his previous life (mostly just brews beer now) and he is SO excited!

RESIST,
kp
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Scientists, angry after being told to be quiet, are planning a march on Washington (Original Post) kpete Jan 2017 OP
Good on the Scientists.. eventually the whole Cha Jan 2017 #1
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #2
I will be there if I can. This is great news! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #3
as a scientist myself, I'm SO IN! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #4
Having to march for science? SAD! flygal Jan 2017 #5
Its a new Republican Dark Age workinclasszero Jan 2017 #28
I'll march if there's one in Ohio. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #6
oho state u would be a good place to protest certainot Jan 2017 #29
Good point. Penn State, Michigan State and others too. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #30
penn st with 11 stations is home for michael mann certainot Jan 2017 #32
If there's one in Atlanta, I'm in. Dulcinea Jan 2017 #45
Who are the scientists organizing this march? I checked the website, no names. frankieallen Jan 2017 #7
That's partly why I haven't provided them with any information about me. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #9
More here: kpete Jan 2017 #15
bwahahahaaaa what's next? mopinko Jan 2017 #8
Eventually, all the above, and more!!!! LongTomH Jan 2017 #10
He tries to silence everyone who ever worked for him. wisteria Jan 2017 #11
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists will be adjusting the doomsday clock on the 26th. longship Jan 2017 #12
Love it! femmocrat Jan 2017 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Jan 2017 #17
Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #26
Scientists will have the BEST signs! NBachers Jan 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Jan 2017 #16
K&R! gademocrat7 Jan 2017 #18
You Go Eggheads colsohlibgal Jan 2017 #19
Is there a way for us to support them? AC_Mem Jan 2017 #20
You can go to their website and sign up for email updates. I did. Here: Amaryllis Jan 2017 #41
Yay science!!! MontanaMama Jan 2017 #21
I don't think Bush even pissed them off to this extent. HughBeaumont Jan 2017 #22
I imagine we'll need regular protests for the next 4 years lindysalsagal Jan 2017 #23
The orange dictator will just put them in a gulag. Texin Jan 2017 #24
I stand with the Scientists!!!! workinclasszero Jan 2017 #25
I'll be marching, because I trust what empirical scientific data shows us ffr Jan 2017 #27
Let's make this a national affair with sister marches. TygrBright Jan 2017 #31
OH! Great plot for the Big Bang Theory crowd! Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #33
I intend to be there! NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #34
Their grants are going to be pulled anyway. joshcryer Jan 2017 #35
Kick and Rec. I live next to a major university -- the sciences can't live without fed grants Hekate Jan 2017 #36
Happy to see this happening! hamsterjill Jan 2017 #37
As a former science teacher TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #38
I believe that there every group and topic will be marching against Comrade Trumpsky ... Pachamama Jan 2017 #39
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #40
For those wondering who is behind this website angrychair Jan 2017 #42
I Don't Blame Them for Hiding Who Owns the Website Leith Jan 2017 #62
K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #43
K&R. JudyM Jan 2017 #44
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2017 #46
K&R++++ zentrum Jan 2017 #47
K&R! Yes! myrna minx Jan 2017 #48
K&R! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #49
Facebook page has been removed. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2017 #50
But scientists use data and facts bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #51
What I now tell Trump's Red State supporters es35 Jan 2017 #52
YAY! I hope there's one in NY. If not I'll try to get to DC. Squinch Jan 2017 #53
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #54
I have my protest sign ready: IcyPeas Jan 2017 #55
Under Bush I interviewed scientists who said they were ordered to come to certain conclusions grantcart Jan 2017 #56
I'm in if they protest in NYC. IrishEyes Jan 2017 #57
I want to go! AwakeAtLast Jan 2017 #58
I too was a microbiologist in my pre-retirement life. Paka Jan 2017 #59
RIGHT ON!!! Power to science!! I feel strongly about this too. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #60
There were a lot of scientists on the DC march idahoblue Jan 2017 #61
GO Scientists GO! burrowowl Jan 2017 #63

Cha

(297,503 posts)
1. Good on the Scientists.. eventually the whole
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

world is going to be Marching to blotus' door step.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. oho state u would be a good place to protest
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jan 2017

because it supports 6 limbaugh stations

Students can amplify protests at state capitols and town halls w/out leaving campus.

here are 88 universities that would be good places for scientists to protest , with the number of limbaugh stations they broadcast sports on and support - all support trump, global warming denial, and defunding public education. these stations use their university associations to attract advertising to pay for their support for trump/republicans and it's basically free for them.

this was a major factor in republican success the last 30 years. without these major stations the talk radio monopoly would fall apart and republicans couldnt do shit

ALABAMA 8  Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7  Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 5 Wisconsin 5

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
30. Good point. Penn State, Michigan State and others too.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

Many of the strong radio stations around here are owned by Clear Channel, or whatever it's called now... iHeartCommunications?

Yay! My alma mater isn't listed!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
9. That's partly why I haven't provided them with any information about me.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jan 2017

It's probably legit, but I'm not going to plunge into it too quickly.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
11. He tries to silence everyone who ever worked for him.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jan 2017

I am glad people are fighting this would be dictator.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists will be adjusting the doomsday clock on the 26th.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jan 2017

Here is their statement in advance of the announcement.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists will host a live international news conference at 10 a.m. EST/1500 GMT on January 26, 2017, to announce whether the minute hand of the historic “Doomsday Clock” will be adjusted. The decision is made by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists' Science and Security Board in consultation with the Board of Sponsors, which includes 15 Nobel Laureates.

Factors influencing the 2017 deliberations regarding any adjustment that may be made to the Doomsday Clock include: a rise in strident nationalism worldwide, President Donald Trump’s comments on nuclear arms and climate issues prior to his inauguration on January 20th, a darkening global security landscape that is colored by increasingly sophisticated technology, and a growing disregard for scientific expertise.

In January 2016, the Doomsday Clock’s minute hand did not change, remaining at three minutes before midnight, the closest it has been to midnight since the early days of above-ground hydrogen bomb testing. The Clock was changed in 2015 from five to three minutes to midnight.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
13. Love it!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jan 2017

Do scientists tend to be non-partisan? The ones I knew in our old neighborhood worked for Westinghouse and were overwhelmingly republican.

Response to femmocrat (Reply #13)

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
26. Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/only-six-percent-of-scien_n_229382.html

Among the general public, moderates and independents ranked higher than any party or ideology. But among scientists, there were considerably more Democrats (55%) than independents (32%) and Republicans (6%) put together...

“The Republican Party has a number of leaders within it who have challenged the accuracy of scientific findings on issues such as climate change, evolution and stem cell research,” Keeter told the Huffington Post.


Edit: I read it was a more of an even split back in the 60's, if that's what you mean by old neighborhood.

Response to kpete (Original post)

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
19. You Go Eggheads
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jan 2017

This is smart vs dumber than a box of rocks.

In other news Amazon sales of Orwell's "1984" and "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis are surging.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
20. Is there a way for us to support them?
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

I remember when they did the take over of the congressional house a few years back and we were able to donate to local restaurants and they supplied water, coffee, some food items, etc. If it is going to be cold in Washington and someone is organizing this, we may have an opportunity to not only help the scientists, but also to help the local small business owners who are in SUPPORT of this cause.

I can try to do this later - I'm at work so cannot contact (actually just peeking in for a sec)

Peace and Power to the People!!
A

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
41. You can go to their website and sign up for email updates. I did. Here:
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/
They are in the early stages of organizing and are asking for support.

What is the Scientists' March on Washington
Welcome! We want to thank you all for your incredible outpouring of support for this march. We are working to schedule a March for Science on DC and across the United States. We have not settled on a date yet but will do so as quickly as possible and announce it here.

Although this will start with a march, we hope to use this as a starting point to take a stand for science in politics. Slashing funding and restricting scientists from communicating their findings (from tax-funded research!) with the public is absurd and cannot be allowed to stand as policy. This is a non-partisan issue that reaches far beyond people in the STEM fields and should concern anyone who values empirical research and science.

There are certain things that we accept as facts with no alternatives. The Earth is becoming warmer due to human action. The diversity of life arose by evolution. Politicians who devalue expertise risk making decisions that do not reflect reality and must be held accountable. An American government that ignores science to pursue ideological agendas endangers the world.

Please bear with us as pull together our mission statement and further details. Many more updates to come on Monday.

MontanaMama

(23,334 posts)
21. Yay science!!!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jan 2017

I'm really looking forward to the eventual march of the "duped white working class rural voter".

THAT will be the march to remember. Sad!



lindysalsagal

(20,718 posts)
23. I imagine we'll need regular protests for the next 4 years
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

To cover the enslaught to sanity that this dumbasses will provide.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
24. The orange dictator will just put them in a gulag.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

Actually, I think dissidents and protesters are now in serious jeopardy of being seized as threats to homeland security/enemy combatants, etc. and sent to Guantanamo for indefinite incarceration.

I've never seen a dictator, whether he's from a banana republic, a Soviet communist, a German Nazi or an Italian fascist, a Middle Eastern potentate not have dissenters or the royal "opponents" thrown into jails without due process (if they're lucky) or shot down like a fleeing convicted felon in a prison break.

The fact that this cretin has - just 3 days in - imposed gag orders on not just these EPA scientists, but others in federal agencies (what's next - the CDC for fuck's sake!??), means he's already started to rule like Putin. We're all fucked as shit. Not just Americans, but the entire planet and its population human and otherwise. Christ on a crutch. What the fuck have we done, allowed to be done?

ffr

(22,671 posts)
27. I'll be marching, because I trust what empirical scientific data shows us
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jan 2017

It's not a matter of 'belief,' when the data shows what it shows and can be PROVEN. That's not belief, that's trust.

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
31. Let's make this a national affair with sister marches.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jan 2017

Because I'd be happy to reprise last Saturday here in Santa Fe.

determinedly,
Bright

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
34. I intend to be there!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not a scientist myself but I passionately believe that science is vital for the planet and therefore the species in it.

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
36. Kick and Rec. I live next to a major university -- the sciences can't live without fed grants
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jan 2017

smh

TexasBushwhacker

(20,209 posts)
38. As a former science teacher
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jan 2017

I would also love for them to address the push to teach creationism in schools.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
39. I believe that there every group and topic will be marching against Comrade Trumpsky ...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

It's going to be very busy....the Crybaby man Snowflake President will be a mess...

angrychair

(8,732 posts)
42. For those wondering who is behind this website
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jan 2017

The Scientists march on Washington website that is referenced on their Facebook page, I did a little digging and didn't get a lot of answers:

https://www.whois.com/whois/scientistsmarchonwashington.com

They are hiding the name of who registered the domain name and their organization...the domain name was created on the January 21st of this year though.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
62. I Don't Blame Them for Hiding Who Owns the Website
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:26 PM
Jan 2017

orange boy's regime would pick them off pretty quickly on some trumped up excuse.

Sorry for the pun.

es35

(132 posts)
52. What I now tell Trump's Red State supporters
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jan 2017

I’d like to see your faces when you have to pay big bills from your “elite” doctors virtually all of whom believe in science, evolution and climate change.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
56. Under Bush I interviewed scientists who said they were ordered to come to certain conclusions
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 09:43 PM
Jan 2017

There are a large number of scientists who work for the DOD on each base to ensure that bases comply with best environmental practices.

The local leaders resisted the scientists at first but in the end not only complied with the extra level of accountability. There are, for example, more than 100 scientists working at Camp Pendleton.

Once the leadership of the executive branch is anti science there are hundreds of little pockets that can be attacked and no one will ever find out about it.

It will take years to over come the damage.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
57. I'm in if they protest in NYC.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jan 2017

I hope we have a lot of different protests in NYC and around the country. I will happily march. The conservatives had their tea party rallies.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
59. I too was a microbiologist in my pre-retirement life.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jan 2017

This is very exciting. Let's hear it from the scientists.

idahoblue

(377 posts)
61. There were a lot of scientists on the DC march
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:18 PM
Jan 2017

We were in a group of scientists from several modalities. They told us they were legion, scattered among the marchers. We ran into different groups as we proceeded to the Whitehouse.

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