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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:25 PM Jan 2017

Trump is prepping an executive order with drastic cuts to the U.N.

The Trump administration is preparing an executive order proposing dramatic cuts to the United Nations, according to a copy of the draft order seen by Vice News.

The order, still in draft form and subject to change, calls for a detailed, year-long review of all U.S. funding to the U.N., and recommends an overall decrease in payments to the U.N. by “at least” 40%.

It also specifically calls for the end of any funding to an array of U.N.-affiliated organizations that meet a vague set of criteria, including any organization that includes the Palestinian Authority as a member, and any organization that supports or encourages abortions.

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-united-nations-cuts

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Trump is prepping an executive order with drastic cuts to the U.N. (Original Post) octoberlib Jan 2017 OP
He wants war, he wants to play with the military as if it is a toy. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #1
You bet he does MFM008 Jan 2017 #3
Buying stock in war companies as we speak. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #6
Among all my worries, and they are legion, is that he is going to do real harm LisaM Jan 2017 #2
the presidency as an institution and as a cultural symbol has been irrevocably tarnished, stained, geek tragedy Jan 2017 #5
He wants that land. C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #4
What fruit this shall bring DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #7

LisaM

(27,818 posts)
2. Among all my worries, and they are legion, is that he is going to do real harm
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jan 2017

to the presidency. I cannot believe all of this will go unchecked. But at what cost? Will we lose some of the balance of power that is so dear to our country? Will the military become more powerful? Will future presidencies be diminished?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. the presidency as an institution and as a cultural symbol has been irrevocably tarnished, stained,
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:32 PM
Jan 2017

and degraded.

Trump poisons everything he touches

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
7. What fruit this shall bring
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jan 2017

Let's not forget one thing; as of right now, the five "permanent" members of United Nations Security Council happened to be: Russia, China, England, France and of course at the US. If US is able to withdraw from the UN, the vacuum is not going to remain, especially because the Russians and the Chinese both have made plans to fill that vacuum. As is, as Syria showed, the UN is very much nothing but a rubberstamp that is fought over by the Eagle and the Bear. If you are someone being oppressed and you are not either a client of the Eagle or the bear, you get ignored, just ask people will will tell you, especially in Rwanda or Syria.

Now, this serves to make the UN even weaker. After all Russia does go ahead and give a lot of lip service to the UN, and still has the heart of many of those people who still think the Russians are those dashing, idealistic people from the old USSR. If all that is needed to be done is for Trump and Vladimir Rasputin to meet and decide things beforehand, the UN will even offer less resistance. At this point the only nation that can credibly offer any sort of resistance is China, and frankly they have a reason to just sit back and watch as the Eagle in the bear stumble into making themselves and the relevant mass that is hated by most of the world. As bad as a TBP was, and oh yes it definitely was, the way it was abandoned will go ahead and give Beijing a one up to unify Asia under their banner, which means the vast majority of the worlds population and wealth just has to set back I want your, North America, and Russia self-destruct.

Of course, there is still yet another layer to this. After all the reason why Russia and America have as of late in treating the UN as some week will and in the attic that signed checks every now and then is because both of them want to rape the Middle East. Now, while Russia is petting itself in the back for having fought Isis, and Trump is bragging about all that he will do for his old buddy Benjamin Netanyahu, there is something that will catch people by surprise. Many Muslims, even the ones that are far more liberal than a lot of so-called liberals, like the Muslim ladies who never wear a hijab, we'll just look and see that at every other door is closed, you might as well walk through the only door that is welcoming you. Of course that serves the interest of both Moscow and Washington, as well as whatever version of George Orwell's Oceania the post brexit UK decides to turn itself into.

However, once you make it possible for moderates to choke down the conservatives extreme elements, you have an unparalleled means of destruction, because to quote WB Yeats "the best lack all conviction, the worst are full of passionate intensity." What that means in practical terms is that even the people who generally have a reason to distrust terrorism and extremism will feel there is nowhere else to go. Let's be impolite: we even see that here in America where you see some people poor outright radical, and I do not mean Bernie or even Cornell West radical, actively tried to encourage violence. Of course, even Trotsky realized that terroristic violence only serves to help your enemy unite, because even the people who would listen to you normally are afraid that you will kill them as easily as you would kill their enemies.

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