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mreilly

(2,120 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:52 PM Jan 2017

No end to how disgusting Trump fans are on the internet

So Trump fans (read: internet trolls) now have a tactic (not really new; same old same old) when they issue a claim.

Troll: "It's true, illegal voters cost Trump the popular vote. Everyone knows it. It's a fact! Millions of illegals voted!"

You: "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence."

Troll: "No, I don't have to. You go find it yourself and do your own homework. Wake up, sheep!"

Got it. So, posting opinions (e.g. bullshit) now substitutes in their "minds" for an actual discussion based on factual data. And they really think this is going to reverse the growing tide of revulsion and disgust for their hero.

Let's envision a scenario: little Billy goes into school having been assigned a book report and the teacher asked him what he chose.

"Johnny Tremain."

"What is it about, Billy?"

"Go read it yourself and find out! It's not my job to provide any information! Hey, what do you mean you're giving me an 'F'????! This is obvious bias! You can't handle the truth!"

Pitiful. Pathetic. Predictable. Pointless. Putrid.

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No end to how disgusting Trump fans are on the internet (Original Post) mreilly Jan 2017 OP
If they make the claim, they have to back it up. Qutzupalotl Jan 2017 #1
And if you call bullshit, they call you a libtard or a marxist. Initech Jan 2017 #6
That, and non-stop posting of aggressive memes. Adsos Letter Jan 2017 #7
This one drives me berzerk: Initech Jan 2017 #8
I generally run into this stuff on Facebook. Adsos Letter Jan 2017 #10
Well... I do have the last couple of editions of the Top 10 as a handy guide! Initech Jan 2017 #13
Libtard, snowflake and safe space mreilly Jan 2017 #15
you forgot cuck hells Jan 2017 #16
and feminazis (thanks Rush) and "betas" Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #21
Except they spell it "illeagals". louis-t Jan 2017 #2
I see a bumper sticker all the time that says: Initech Jan 2017 #9
The problem is... Laurian Jan 2017 #3
Exactly mreilly Jan 2017 #17
They sound like truthers, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers, and homeopaths. Oneironaut Jan 2017 #4
Here's a solution, if you *want* to engage them. Treat them the same as hostile witnesses. ck4829 Jan 2017 #5
Love this too! mreilly Jan 2017 #19
Counter fake facts ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #11
This is perfect!! RockaFowler Jan 2017 #14
Oh my God, Nance, you are a genius! mreilly Jan 2017 #18
Two years from now they'll claim they never backed Trump and he stole election Johonny Jan 2017 #12
Yeah.. just like blotus Cha Jan 2017 #20

Initech

(100,096 posts)
6. And if you call bullshit, they call you a libtard or a marxist.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jan 2017

Because they can't win arguments without name calling. Good lord the phrase "libtard" sets me off.

Initech

(100,096 posts)
8. This one drives me berzerk:
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jan 2017


And people who post this shit think it's funny. I would counter that with a similar flow chart that says "Are you a racist? Yes - I'm a racist. No - I've said racist stuff but I'm not racist - Yes - you're a racist."

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
10. I generally run into this stuff on Facebook.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jan 2017

I've started limiting my reading to the first couple of comments and their responses. Anything more sends my blood pressure through the roof, something I can't really afford at my age. Plus, I find that comments can get repetitive pretty quickly on some of those threads.

I have observed that the overall number of trolls appears to be decreasing. This seems more evident on the threads dealing with hard news stories directly focused on issues striking at Trump supporters/critics alike (such as the rescinding of the FHA mortgage insurance rate cut) as well as stories that begin to look more like the descent of outright fascism (such as the various actions to control the message in favor of the administration). No numbers to support this, just an observation of what appears to be happening.

I've toyed with the idea of attempting some sort of analysis of troll response to political topics on FB, but my time for that kind of thing is currently focused on another aspect of the election.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
15. Libtard, snowflake and safe space
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

That's all they can do. Whine the above three words/phrases. Over and over. Go on any RW forum and it's all this:

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You get the point....

Initech

(100,096 posts)
9. I see a bumper sticker all the time that says:
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:48 PM
Jan 2017

"Annoy a liberal - work hard and be happy!"..

I counter that with: "Annoy a conservative - spell correctly and use proper grammar!"

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
3. The problem is...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jan 2017

Their large presence on social media (even if they just spout garbage like that one did) reinforces that crap for the less intellectually curious Trump supporters and makes them think they're in the majority. They'll never come to their senses as long as they are able to follow the Trump blowhards online.

I think this is likely an orchestrated social media blitz that's been carried over from the election.

So keep challenging them!

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
17. Exactly
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:23 PM
Jan 2017

They want to own the narrative with lies - and these people will lie. Deliberately, gleefully and without shame. I don't give a damn about trying to change any of their sorry, foul little minds, but I refuse to allow them to smugly tell other people what to think.

Oneironaut

(5,519 posts)
4. They sound like truthers, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers, and homeopaths.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jan 2017

They'll ask for evidence, but the only acceptable source is one that confirms their point. If asked for evidence, they'll either use nutty websites, or will start launching ad-hominem attacks on you.

They start with "the answer" and only want to confirm their beliefs, not challenge them.

ck4829

(35,079 posts)
5. Here's a solution, if you *want* to engage them. Treat them the same as hostile witnesses.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jan 2017

Instead of "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence." instead respond with "Did you get that from WorldNutDaily?" or "What other drivel did Breitbart drill into your skull today?"

If they defensively say no, respond with "So you're just making it up then? Pulling alternative facts out of the air?"

It is safe to assume that what a Trumper says is not a fact, from something that is not reputable, and has no impartial evidence to back it up and so you should act accordingly.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
11. Counter fake facts ...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

... with equally fake facts.

TROLL: "It's true, illegal voters cost Trump the popular vote. Everyone knows it. It's a fact! Millions of illegals voted!"

YOU: "I know. I've been reading that millions of illegals voted, and most of them voted for Trump. It's been all over the news - can't believe you missed it! Turns out the illegals actually handed him the election!"

TROLL: "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence."

YOU: "You go find it yourself and do your own homework. Wake up, sheep!"



RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
14. This is perfect!!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jan 2017

Love your counter claim

Like I said on Facebook today . . . maybe the voter fraud was in Florida or North Carolina or Pennsylvania or Michigan

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
18. Oh my God, Nance, you are a genius!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:25 PM
Jan 2017

I am using this in every single way! Thank you for this - and I know your stuff from prior posts and love it!

Folks, if they're going to use this shit in our direction, we are MORE THAN ENTITLED to fire it back in theirs! I have always said I would never deliberately tell a lie, but meeting them on equal ground - the ground THEY attempt to set to their own advantage to screw their opposition - is perfectly fair.

Johonny

(20,872 posts)
12. Two years from now they'll claim they never backed Trump and he stole election
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jan 2017

because that's what the propaganda people well tell them to say.

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