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Eugene

(61,949 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:04 PM Jan 2017

Sean Spicer makes it official: No voter fraud in Philadelphia, Milwaukee or Detroit

Source: Washington Post

Sean Spicer makes it official: No voter fraud in Philadelphia, Milwaukee or Detroit

By David Weigel January 25 at 3:35 PM

For as long as Democrats were winning the Rust Belt in presidential elections, Republicans have been on the hunt for voter fraud in big cities. In 2012, when Pennsylvania Republicans passed a voter ID law, they explicitly said it would allow Mitt Romney to win the state by ending fraud in Philadelphia. When Wisconsin Republicans worried that they might lose a close Supreme Court race, they discussed “messaging 'widespread reports of election fraud' so we are positively set up for the recount.” When commentators defended President Trump's pre-election fear of fraud, the biggest Rust Belt cities made easy targets.

In 2012, there were "59 separate precincts in inner-city Philadelphia that Mitt Romney did not get a single vote, not one,” Sean Hannity said last August. “And according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, there were nine precincts in Cleveland alone, again, not a single Romney vote — not one. Now, maybe I'm conspiratorial. Maybe this is a stretch. But 70 districts in two cities?”

Good news, Midwest: According to the White House, there actually is no voter fraud in the Midwest — or at least, not a significant amount — specifically in the states where Trump competed and won. White House press secretary Sean Spicer said so during an exchange with Fox News reporter John Roberts, who brought up the fact that Trump's legal team had beaten back recount lawsuits in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by saying there had been no fraud.

“Attorneys who were representing the president-elect during the recounts in several states emphatically stated, quote, 'All available evidence suggests the 2016 election was not tainted by fraud or mistake,' " Roberts said. “So how do you square those two things?”

Spicer said: “I think there's a lot of states that we didn't compete in where that's not necessarily the case. You look at California and New York, I'm not sure that those statements were — we didn't look at those two states, in particular. ...

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Sean Spicer makes it official: No voter fraud in Philadelphia, Milwaukee or Detroit (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2017 OP
Voter fraud only occurred in states where the short fingered vulgar buffoon lost etherealtruth Jan 2017 #1
That is one spicy meatball. No wonder he gives me indigestion. /nt rzemanfl Jan 2017 #2
So... those are the cities we should look at for Trump tampered votes against Hillary then? Lucinda Jan 2017 #3
This actually amazes me. The blizzard of dRumpf repug b s is so heavy Mc Mike Jan 2017 #4
PA, WI, MI, and OH are exactly the places that need to be investigated groundloop Jan 2017 #6
Agreed that these states need investigation. Mc Mike Jan 2017 #13
78,000 votes Loge23 Jan 2017 #5
Not even enough to fill the Rose Bowl in Pasadena... VOX Jan 2017 #9
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #12
Everyone who voted against him will be declared illegal IronLionZion Jan 2017 #7
Liar. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #8
Of course not - those were states Drumpf won. haele Jan 2017 #10
Okay back that truck up cabbage breath Peacetrain Jan 2017 #11
Meaning if we audit we will find that votes were not counted in those places that tended to kimbutgar Jan 2017 #14
How about election fraud? They_Live Jan 2017 #15
That, my friend, is why they will drop this whole thing as fast as they can. Bozvotros Jan 2017 #16
I was in on the vote recount in Michigan until they shut us down erinlough Jan 2017 #17
Thank you for your participation! catrose Jan 2017 #18
True: there was probably not VOTER fraud in any of those states Bettie Jan 2017 #19
Which suspiciously lines up with this article Hestia Jan 2017 #20
Read this weekend DK504 Jan 2017 #21

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. Voter fraud only occurred in states where the short fingered vulgar buffoon lost
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jan 2017

in the world of Alternate facts voter fraud did not occur in the states tRump won and happened by the millions in states he lost.

Dear god the abject stupidity of this man is embarrassing

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
4. This actually amazes me. The blizzard of dRumpf repug b s is so heavy
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:30 PM
Jan 2017

that I completely forgot about how hard they fought against any examination of ballots in PA, WI, and MI.

And I actually worked to get a PA recount. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
6. PA, WI, MI, and OH are exactly the places that need to be investigated
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

tRump is certainly putting up one hell of a smokescreen surrounding Russian interference and vote counting irregularities.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
13. Agreed that these states need investigation.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jan 2017

It amazed me that they were able to fight like devils against any effort to investigate the ballots in the 3 states, with a slew of court cases and a media blitz. Then when their orange shitler and his team started to scream about voter fraud, I didn't make the connection.

I pushed for the recount here, donated, volunteered, filed the petition, wrote and called my Dem state AG. And I'm no neophyte politically, and have a decent memory and intelligence level. But I went right along with the repugs' framing on this one, didn't give it a second thought. They 3 card monty-ed the shit out of me on this one, until I saw this o.p.

Until I saw Spokesnazi Spicer's statement that there was massive fraud, EXCEPT in the states where it's obvious fraud occurred in favor of his side, I was focused on how they're lying about fraud that 'hurt' poor dRumpfenfuhrer. Their newer massive lie, projecting their crime onto their 'enemies', covered up for their older massive lie, that they didn't commit election fraud.

They're not geniuses, they have zillions of dollars, inordinately huge access to media to retail their version of the 'truth', and a penchant for openly, transparently lying without batting an eye. But they suckered me.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
5. 78,000 votes
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jan 2017

That's the margin of "victory" in WI, MI, and PA for der fuhrer.
...and he's claiming voter fraud?
In his delusional mind, he thinks everyone voted for him.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
9. Not even enough to fill the Rose Bowl in Pasadena...
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jan 2017

You'd still need another 14-15 thousand heads to reach capacity.

So NOT a mandate.

haele

(12,679 posts)
10. Of course not - those were states Drumpf won.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jan 2017

It's only those nasty Blue states that had voter fraud - by allowing too many liberals and PoC to vote.
There's now a quota, you know. Only enough liberals and PoC are allowed to have their votes counted just to ensure there's no question of voter fraud when the King wins.
Oh - if it wasn't clear.

Haele

Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
11. Okay back that truck up cabbage breath
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jan 2017

The places we are going to investigate non stop are places where voter suppression impacted the outcome of the election... You turkeys jumped on..now we are going for the ride..

kimbutgar

(21,195 posts)
14. Meaning if we audit we will find that votes were not counted in those places that tended to
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

Favor Hillary. Rancid is trying to shhhh them on this. He knows they manipulated the election with the rethug sos' in those states.

Bozvotros

(785 posts)
16. That, my friend, is why they will drop this whole thing as fast as they can.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 04:10 AM
Jan 2017

They have been talking about all the ways voter fraud could happen but in fact that is dwarfed by all the ways election fraud can (and does) happen. i think someone told them to put this subject to bed before they hand the media an opportunity to hammer them on why they refuse to look at election fraud.. They don't want that. But I am pretty sure Trump won't be able to keep his fat mouth closed or both feet out of it. Every chance they get the press should thank him for bringing up such an important subject and hammer on him about how easy it would be to hack voting machines and central tabulators and that this could enable an unqualified demagogue, a goddamned fool even, into our democratic system.

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
17. I was in on the vote recount in Michigan until they shut us down
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 04:38 AM
Jan 2017

Consider this, in Detroit 80 machines did not register any votes and 57% of the precincts registered too many votes,
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

And the idiot won by only 10,000 votes

catrose

(5,073 posts)
18. Thank you for your participation!
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jan 2017

I sure wish the recount could have continued, especially with rot like you uncovered. It was paid for. And the judge's reasoning--that the outcome won't affect Jill Stein--is awful. Jill Stein is a US citizen, and the outcome affects her like it does the rest of us unhappy citizens.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
19. True: there was probably not VOTER fraud in any of those states
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jan 2017

or any of the others. If there was it was at the usual, very minimal level. One or two cases, never enough to swing an election.

Now, the next question is was there ELECTION fraud? I'm guessing yes, there was, on a massive scale.

Finally: was there voter SUPPRESSION? You bet there was. Between Cross Check and voter ID laws, plenty of eligible voters were turned away.

OH, wait, they don't want to know about those other things, do they?

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
20. Which suspiciously lines up with this article
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 10:55 PM
Jan 2017
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/big-data-cambridge-analytica-brexit-trump

Cambridge Analytica, however, divided the US population into 32 personality types, and focused on just 17 states. And just as Kosinski had established that men who like MAC cosmetics are slightly more likely to be gay, the company discovered that a preference for cars made in the US was a great indication of a potential Drumpf voter. Among other things, these findings now showed Drumpf which messages worked best and where. The decision to focus on Michigan and Wisconsin in the final weeks of the campaign was made on the basis of data analysis. The candidate became the instrument for implementing a big data model.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
21. Read this weekend
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

that the "voter fraud" crap came from some ex Mississippi DHS employee. He started tweeing this shit out right after the election. Ya' know when BLOTUS lost by 9 million votes.

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