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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 10:53 AM Jun 2012

Question: How can deposing Holder hold up the voting rights

investigations?

Eric Holder may be the head of the department, but he's certainly not the only attorney general in the government's employ.

While I agree, the Republican-led Congress is holding Holder in contempt of Congress in an effort to prevent the voting rights' investigation, I can't see how that would matter much. Surely, Holder can punt this to another in his command, couldn't he?

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Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
2. I think part of this may be about "reframing" the voter
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jun 2012

suppression debate. If they can discredit Holder, they can frame his enforcement actions as unfair and partisan.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
3. You forget that Obama did not clean house in any department...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jun 2012

when he took office. So every department is filled with repugnant appointments who do not believe in the work of that department. Do you remember that the Cheney administration was hiring lawyers for the Justice department based on how much they hated Roe v Wade and whether they were good "christians"? How many Liberty U law school grads are still there hunkered down in the woodwork waiting to sabotage something like investigations into voter suppression?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
4. Right - The Moles.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jun 2012

But, surely, Holder brought in some of his own staff to served directly under him. And, he and his surrogates should know who the moles are by now.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
5. I've made this point repeatedly here to no avail. The Civil Rights
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jun 2012

division of the U.S. Department of Justice does not require a sitting Attorney General to enforce the law, FFS. Holder could resign and his replacement be stalled and not voted upon until after November and that still would not prevent enforcement of the Voting Rights Act.

Gothmog

(145,329 posts)
6. No direct effect
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jun 2012

The GOP is trying to send the Obama administration and the DOJ a message that the GOP does not like Attorney General Holder using civil rights laws to uphold civil rights like voting. The real effect would be if President Obama lost because a Romney DOJ would be worse than a bush DOJ. Remember it was under Bush that the staff of the voting rights section of the DOJ was overruled in order to allow the Georgia voter id law to go into effect. That was a purely political act that ignore the recommendations of the staff of the DOJ

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
7. It won't. The point of deposing Holder is to harass and embarrass the President.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jun 2012

It's got nothing to do with voting rights.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
12. "Issa has proven Holder is corrupt. Now Holder is corruptly trying to encourage Voter Fraud!"
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

That's the scenario.

Smear holder as corrupt. (and Obama as corrupt)

Then claim Rick Scott is fighting "voter fraud", while the corrupt Holder is trying to promote "voter fraud" to steal the election for Obama.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
10. No - this isn't a "just to be fair" threads.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jun 2012

I really wanted to know why others in the AG's office couldn't take up this mantle.

How in the hell do you get any support or enabling of the GOP from my merely asking why others in Holder's employ couldn't do the job? Protecting voting rights needs to be done and I know that the federal AG's office isn't staffed by only Eric Holder.

The "moles" explanation upthread is a good issue, for example.

My question was merely logistical.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
9. They slime him on this, then they claim he is slimy when he goes after Florida, etc
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jun 2012

They are trying to make him look dirty.

Then the right wing noise machine will claim Issa "proved" he is "corrupt", and say he is being corrupt and trying to promote "Voter Fraud"

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
11. Issa couldn't prove Nixon was corrupt because
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:20 AM
Jun 2012

Issa is a corrupt, morally bankrupt criminal, himself.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
14. Issa doesn't have to prove anything. Republican "Commentators" will say he did and run with it.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

This is what they always do - lie and muddy the waters.

You are right about Issa. Every word he says about Obama being corrupt is pure Republican Projection.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. The only thing I can think of is that the gopers are trying to damage his credibility so
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

Rick Scott can say - why should we listen to Holder? (but in Rick's language).

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