Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why is the Supreme Court dragging out the health care decision (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2012 OP
Maybe they want a chance to get ouf town before Blue Meany Jun 2012 #1
Bingo. crazylikafox Jun 2012 #2
shame? NightWatcher Jun 2012 #3
They always save the best for last kudzu22 Jun 2012 #4
Some are probably waiting for the 'bag' money to be dropped off! dmosh42 Jun 2012 #5
Allow time for contingency plans and other preperations One_Life_To_Give Jun 2012 #6
Panic and chaos? B2G Jun 2012 #13
Because they know a holiday weekend is coming n/t malaise Jun 2012 #7
I doubt this is that nefarious..... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #8
Still writing the decision? AngryAmish Jun 2012 #9
+1 cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #11
Does anybody else have a bad feeling about it? Quantess Jun 2012 #10
Yeah. Probably in proportion to how important this is to me. n/t pnwmom Jun 2012 #12
But if it gets ruled unconstitutional Quantess Jun 2012 #15
It is far from perfect and I was against it before it passed... But now... Xyzse Jun 2012 #16
We won't get anything better than this. We can forget about anyone attempting pnwmom Jun 2012 #18
Probably because the decision is going to be so complicated jpljr77 Jun 2012 #14
exactly. and each justice gets to review each opinion onenote Jun 2012 #17
They like the drama. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #19

crazylikafox

(2,758 posts)
2. Bingo.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jun 2012

I'm sure the helicopters and limos will be waiting outside the door to wisk them far away as soon as the decision is announced.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. shame?
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jun 2012

Maybe they know (deep down inside past their corporate beholden duty) from their days studying law that they are going to do something they shouldnt do.

Oh, and by that I mean overturn any portion that would help Obama or The People at large. The SC is now a tool of the Reich wing Corporate plutocrats.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
4. They always save the best for last
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jun 2012

Well, maybe not "best" but the most high-profile ones are always announced last.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
6. Allow time for contingency plans and other preperations
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jun 2012

My guess is the delay allows the administration to help sooth the inevitable instability/chaos/panic that will result.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
8. I doubt this is that nefarious.....
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jun 2012

This will be a huge decision, regardless of which way it goes. The Court always reserves issuing decisions on the significant cases until the end of the term.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
10. Does anybody else have a bad feeling about it?
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jun 2012

Because I do. Nobody knows, but I think it will be bad.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
15. But if it gets ruled unconstitutional
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jun 2012

maybe it isn't the end of the world, since it is far from perfect, anyway.
I have a feeling the SC will strike it down.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
16. It is far from perfect and I was against it before it passed... But now...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jun 2012

It has passed, there are a few of its mandates that have already come in to effect, if it gets struck down, the cost to tax payers as well as the increase in insurance that would result to this would most likely be close to catastrophic.

I want some stabilization in this before anything else. If it gets improved, then I am all for it, but to arbitrarily cut down something like the ACA which is a 50K page cluster-f, they have no idea what their meddling will cause.

I'd rather them work on it in a legislative manner.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. We won't get anything better than this. We can forget about anyone attempting
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jun 2012

another major health plan for another couple decades, if this fails.

If this passes Constitutional muster, then Congress can work on improving it. If we have a more liberal Congress, they could add a public option.

But if it fails, no major health plan will be forthcoming for a long, long time.

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
14. Probably because the decision is going to be so complicated
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jun 2012

They are deciding a ton of stuff in this case. So there will be a ton of opinions written (maybe even all nine!). Some will dissent and concur with others, some will explain their own positions. There is a chance that several will be read at the announcement on Thursday (like several dissents today).

Honestly, my gut tells me that it does not bode will for the mandate, but might bode well for the rest of the bill (so the middle option). If it was upheld in total, it would be a fairly simple thing (with Scalia and Thomas, of course, offering "blistering" dissents). So the fact that they all but cleared the decks before Thursday might mean it's going to be a long conference result announcement.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
17. exactly. and each justice gets to review each opinion
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:55 PM
Jun 2012

It can be a drawn out process where there are a lot of dissenting and concurring opinions (and opinions dissenting in part and concurring in part). Justices review each other's opinions before whether to sign on (in whole or in part) to another opinion or whether to write their own. While the Chief Justice can try to move things along by setting a deadline, as a matter of comity, in a major case with a lot of opinions being crafted, the Chief typically gives everyone the maximum amount of time possible to review and edit their opinions (which includes editing them to respond to points made in other justice's opinions).

Its not grandstanding.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why is the Supreme Court ...