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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:53 PM Jan 2017

Get Ready For Theocracy - Here Is What Radical Christians Demand.

RW Christians are all giddy now that Trump is president.

1. End of Johnson Amendment so can endorse Christian or political candidates.
2. Create tax exempt Christian PACs.
3. Prayer and Bible study in schools.
4 Ending all public schools - convert to private.
5. Constitution based on the Bible & 10 Commandments.
6. Personhood at conception.
7. Prohibition and criminalization of abortion and birth control methods.
8. LGBTQ conversion and criminalization.
9. Federal making traditional family the law of the land.
10. Changing all marriage to covenant marriage.
11. Ending divorce (no dissolution of marriage).
12. Making the man head of household legally and only person who can own property and enter contracts.
13. Turning over all domestic programs to churches and charities supported by federal funds.
14. Prosecution and jail for women & abortion enablers.
15. Abstinence only educations.
16. Criminalization of sex outside of marriage.
17. Felony laws for viewing or possessing pornography.

These are the policies that are like what the religious right wants as a price for their support. And I am sure they would like more.
There is no link to this. I have gleaned these demands from the rhetoric that I see across the internet. Having been raised Catholic I am familiar with how the Catholic Church thinks about these issues.

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Get Ready For Theocracy - Here Is What Radical Christians Demand. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 OP
11. Ending divorce (no dissolution of marriage) yellowcanine Jan 2017 #1
RW Christians Believe What Catholic Church Teaches. ALL Marriages Are Insoluble. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 #4
Understood. But it is funny given that Trump, with 5 children from three wives, is their guy. yellowcanine Jan 2017 #9
There is the little annulment escape clause though, which Rudy Giuliani conveniently used yellowcanine Jan 2017 #14
Catholics can have their marriages annulled in the Church....... WillowTree Jan 2017 #15
Most Protestant denominations allow for, and grant religious dissolution LanternWaste Jan 2017 #17
Make trump reconcile with Ivana! NT Ilsa Jan 2017 #21
Why do I think they will quietly drop #17? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #2
They love divorce too jmowreader Jan 2017 #11
The leaders have their own rules. And men are exempt from rules too. yardwork Jan 2017 #22
The only difference between Sharia Law safeinOhio Jan 2017 #3
Dominionism at its finest GliderGuider Jan 2017 #5
Red state Sharia laws bigbrother05 Jan 2017 #6
When we regain power, we should outlaw Christianity. ileus Jan 2017 #7
Oh, this is so hearwarming! PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #8
These Points Have Bubbled Up Across The Net From GOPPERS & RW Church People. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 #10
18. A return to the Baby Scoop Era. They want almost EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock StevieM Jan 2017 #12
Could we not substitue "radical" for "right-wing?" LAS14 Jan 2017 #13
We outnumber them, don't we? Ilsa Jan 2017 #16
We will until we won't. Remember the "Left Behind" series and video games? haele Jan 2017 #19
Now I'm depressed. Thank you for your Ilsa Jan 2017 #20
These people are the absolute scum of the earth. Initech Jan 2017 #18
The Allure of Narcissistic Spirituality Donkees Jan 2017 #23
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
4. RW Christians Believe What Catholic Church Teaches. ALL Marriages Are Insoluble.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jan 2017

I was raised Catholic. The Church prohibits divorce. Cannot remarry and any sex after divorce is a sin and is prohibited. I know that is true because I spent 16 1/2 in Catholic education system.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
9. Understood. But it is funny given that Trump, with 5 children from three wives, is their guy.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jan 2017

Also, Trump is a Norman Vincent Peale Presbyterian, which is about as far as one can get from the Christian Fundies AND Catholics.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
14. There is the little annulment escape clause though, which Rudy Giuliani conveniently used
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jan 2017

to get out of his first marriage. He used the fact that his wife was his second cousin, something which did not bother him before the marriage, and in fact a priest had told him was not a problem. http://wikibin.org/articles/controversies-of-rudy-giuliani.html. Of course he proceeded to divorce his second wife in order to marry his mistress so there is that.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
15. Catholics can have their marriages annulled in the Church.......
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

.......but only after a civil divorce is finalized. Been there. Done that. I can remarry if I want to. (But why would I want to???)

A number of the other things that you outlined are pretty old school, too, and not the views of most Christian religions anymore.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Most Protestant denominations allow for, and grant religious dissolution
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:32 PM
Jan 2017

That's not quite accurate. Most Protestant denominations allow for, and grant religious dissolution to marriage under a very broad range of circumstances. So, despite your anti-Papist stance (which reads strikingly like a 1622 Protestant Declaration), your premise is incorrect. Unless of course, you choose to provide us with the academic sources to support your allegation.




Maybe you should simply focus on your bevy of entertaining, soon-to-be dystopic, end-of-the-world scenarios you keep prophesying, as that seems to be your current shtick. However, that's merely a suggestion; as is getting a sandwich board reading "the end is nigh!" to better advertise your positions on the cataclysms you divine and augury in your dramatic revelations to us.

safeinOhio

(32,720 posts)
3. The only difference between Sharia Law
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jan 2017

and Mosaic Law is with the first you can work on the Sabbath and you are allowed to eat camel meat.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
6. Red state Sharia laws
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jan 2017

Roy Moore is grinning from ear-to-ear.

Won't happen, because the Trump Administration would be in the first groups prosecuted.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,898 posts)
8. Oh, this is so hearwarming!
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jan 2017

Because we all know that radical right wing Christians NEVER divorce, or use birth control or have an abortion, and never ever view pornography.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
12. 18. A return to the Baby Scoop Era. They want almost EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jan 2017

to be given up for adoption.

There will be a few exceptions, of course, like Tiffany Trump. If you are very wealthy then you are entitled to play by your own rules. So people like Donald Trump can also be justified in having pre-marital sex and not paying their taxes.

But the rest of us will be be forced to live in their so-called Chrisitan utopia. And taking children away from loving mothers will be at the absolute top of their list.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
16. We outnumber them, don't we?
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 05:24 PM
Jan 2017

I know good, decent Christians who would not want to live in their fairy world.

I know a minister who joked about being the sacrificial lamb who finds a way to end thrump. It was a joke, but that person despises him with a white-hot passion.

haele

(12,677 posts)
19. We will until we won't. Remember the "Left Behind" series and video games?
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jan 2017

There's about 5% of the "Christian" population of this country that will have no problems at all if 75% of us just "went away". In my observation, these "citizens" think of themselves as the only people who count. Either as the chosen ones or as the rulers of all they survey.
The rest of us are either apostates (or heretics) to them that need to be destroyed, or inconvenient tools that they need to "pay" until they can make us disposable.

These are the angry alcoholic and paranoid cousins in our citizen family. They don't want to be part of "us"; they want us to just go away, if we don't agree with them or bow down to them and "respect their authority".

The hypocrites who are sure they've bought God - the Prosperity Gospel Country Club types - are benignly cruel. They will suffer non-believers to exist in their world - so long as we're able to pay the Country Club dues and act the part of wealth - or they can profit off our labor.

The "True Believer" hypocrites are so afraid for the small tribal God they created to take the place of any God or spirit that could be a Creator of the Entire Universe, they will meet any criticism with an overwhelming show of twisted vengeance - if they can find an opening to do so without repercussions.

They place the pandering of men who make them feel like "special children" far above the works of any Creator God. And they will eagerly kill any and all of those they consider unbelievers. They don't even care if they're taking everything they care for down with it, ruining their lives and sacrificing the future of their children - just to prove they are the center of God's universe and they're going to be in heaven on the right side of the throne of God watching the rest of us burn for amusement.

I have knowledge of a few groups whose adherents have already counseled me to "get good with God while I can". These people all have "Liberal Hunting Licenses" on the backs of their cars, next to the NOTW window sticker and typically above the "It's a life, not a fetus" bumper sticker and Jesus Fish.

They aren't Christian, and they aren't really wanting to be Citizens. They want us gone, and see Trump and his enablers as a tool to get us out of their insular lives - or punish us for pointing out what hypocritical cowards they are.

Haele

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
20. Now I'm depressed. Thank you for your
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 06:40 PM
Jan 2017

Response. It's very telling about these people, our nation.

Initech

(100,103 posts)
18. These people are the absolute scum of the earth.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jan 2017

If Jesus came back and saw what these people were doing in his name, he'd smite them.

Donkees

(31,454 posts)
23. The Allure of Narcissistic Spirituality
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jan 2017

"The desire to control others in order to create a “perfect” environment that nurtures our sensitivities is a calling card of spiritual narcissism."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-alan-lurie/the-allure-of-spiritual-n_b_803415.html

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