even in swing states.

She would have to come up with a million dollar bond to cover the recount when Jill actually only had to come up with $10k. I supported the recount and even donated.

Much more so than myself. Why wasn't your issue her repeated mention of fraud when we knew her efforts wouldn't be looking into fraud in any way at all? I ask that very respectfully. It's the whole reason I was calling it a scam from the start. I knew, as did Stein, that she was flat out lying when soliciting for donations.

I have vocally supported the GP in the past right here on DU. I don't have an issue with multiple parties on the left. I take serious issue with Stein and what she has personally done to the GP.

I looked at it as bigger than Jill and I was hoping that something would be found that would show legal standing to challenge the results.

I thought it was definitely scam-ish from jump but I was willing to roll the dice. Jill not coughing up the $10k to secure the bond just solidified my thoughts. It didn't help that she kept on raising the goal.

Thanks for the complement and I feel the same about you.

with Stein collecting money for recounts.

People who claim they were "futile" from the start are misinformed or are driven by another agenda (my guess would be the incessant "blame the left" movement we see even here on DU). At the time the requests for these recounts needed to be filed, we had no idea of the degree to which white middle class women (in particular, but other white folks in general) had slapped Hillary in the face, there was no readily available explanation for her losses in these swing states, and Russian hacking was front and center so BBV looked like a plausible reason.

That being said, the vast majority of people who donated for the recount effort in all likelihood want NOTHING TO DO WITH Jill Stein, the Green Party, or its agenda. Quite frankly, I doubt many of them want to pursue the BBV issue in general (there are FAR MORE obvious ways the right is stealing elections that have a FAR GREATER need for financial support than BBV).

Finally, it's not donors' responsibility to get their money back. It's Stein's responsibility to return it.

I understand your frustration with how this is being used to bash the left, but Stein can, needs to, put it to rest.

Many, such as myself, were educated enough to fully understand she wasn't looking into what she was publicly claiming to be. It was a simple recount and we knew it from the start. We understood she was working to make the election look as if it was on the up and up. She often talked election fraud as she was stealing money from hard working Americans. Those of us who took time to look fully understood that what she was doing had zero to do with fraud of any kind and was nothing more than a move to generate money and to deceptively confirm the election was on the up and up. She succeeded on both of her very transparent goals.

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=P20003984&tabIndex=1

Fucking scam artist. More like a scam finger painter with a bunch of idiots following her.

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and still thinks and says that the Democrats are just as bad as Trump and the Republicans. That's a fact.

She helped Trump win and she did it on purpose.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028550232

The Republicans didn't deceptively raise the cost of the counts -- she did. She was the one who announced that she would need $2.5 million to carry out the three recounts, and then as soon as it came in, said that money would only take care of the PA recount, now she needed more. Classic bait and switch.

As it is, she knew even then that the chances of her spending that money in PA were tiny , because she had failed to meet the deadline and had to file a special petition in court -- which a judge denied, pointing out that she had waited till the last minute to file her case with him.

So she got to keep that $2 million after making a show of filing her court case. Then she got to keep another $2 million that came back in refunds from the other two states.

The fact is that she got partial recounts or audits in two of the states -- not enough to overturn the election. For that she needed PA, and the outcome there was never in doubt, because of the larger margin and the fact of her missing the deadline.

You haven't figured this out yet, but the Green party is not an ally. They are an opponent who actively worked against Hillary in this election, knowing that they were giving an assist to DT. And this was after Jill cozied up to Putin and Michael Flynn at the dinner in Russia. You have to be pretty darn obtuse not to see what has been going on.

Is is tRump's legal team asserting there was no evidence of fraud. Wish the media would report on that.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michigan-jill-stein-vote-recount-donald-trump-legal-court-block-challenge-broken-equipment-a7464481.html%3Famp