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It isn't Trump (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2017 OP
It IS Trump, but he is tapping into something Hateful, that's for sure Farmgirl1961 Jan 2017 #1
I see these things things Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2017 #5
Then they can go drink from a hose. Nobody's stopping them. yardwork Jan 2017 #8
They can drink from a hose while strapped to a board... Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #14
I'm that demographic and I'm sick and tired of the whining. yardwork Jan 2017 #16
What's your point? KatyMan Jan 2017 #9
I think the poster is pointing that out. yardwork Jan 2017 #15
They want the Leave it to Beaver world Bettie Jan 2017 #19
No it isn't Cosmocat Jan 2017 #11
With Bannon, a white supremacist, calling all the shots! mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #2
And the Heritage Foundation weighing in heavily. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #3
Absolutely. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #7
Well, only 58 percent of eligible Americans voted Lanius Jan 2017 #4
You are closer than most, but you don't factor in the middle third Cosmocat Jan 2017 #12
The 1/3 of people who don't vote are enablers for the 1/3 who are right-wing nut jobs Lanius Jan 2017 #18
SPOT ON Cosmocat Jan 2017 #21
I agree. It's not about Trump. It's much bigger.. yardwork Jan 2017 #6
YEP! Cosmocat Jan 2017 #10
And thanks to AM hate radio, that other half has been told not to do anything with us. Initech Jan 2017 #13
It ain't half of the country, it's half of actual voters - 1/4 of population UTUSN Jan 2017 #17
No, its 2/3s of the country Cosmocat Jan 2017 #22
trump is the firestarter spanone Jan 2017 #20
Trump is the flame Cosmocat Jan 2017 #23
You're numbers are way off... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #24
Some think it's thirds Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2017 #25
Maggot is the figurehead on the ship MFM008 Jan 2017 #26
Maybe 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3 but RW media is about 90% world wide wally Jan 2017 #27
The Republican party created him JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #28

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
5. I see these things things
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jan 2017

1) Make America Great Again really translates to "Make America Feared Again." Many Americans want foreign nations to bow before us - to be part of a nation that dictates terms to others.

2) America never got its pound of flesh. WWII ended with Germany in ruins and Nagasaki and Hiroshima exploding in mushroom clouds. Many Americans want that same sense of revenge for 9-11, the Iranian Hostage Crisis, and a host of other real and perceived sleights. These sleights are not attributed to the non-state or state actors that perpetrated them; they are laid at the feet of Islam.

3) Many Americans became incensed when options were added to ATM's and call centers to press a number for Spanish. They felt they were losing their nation.

4) In works such as Bucky Covington's "A Different World" or Tom Purcell's "Misadventures of a 70s Childhood", we see a generation of 50 and 60+ somethings yearning for the halcyon days when there was no crime, we drank from hoses, there were no bike helmets, there were no participation medals, there was no political correctness, etc. It's like Main Street in "Disneyland" -- their memory filters out the bad things from those times, and they remember an America that never really existed.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
14. They can drink from a hose while strapped to a board...
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

while a wet cloth is held over their faces, for all I care.

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
16. I'm that demographic and I'm sick and tired of the whining.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jan 2017

I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I'm glad that we now have better laws. Nobody took anything away from them.

Bunch of spoiled whiny crybabies.

KatyMan

(4,195 posts)
9. What's your point?
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:31 PM
Jan 2017

Regardless of why the deplorables voted the way they did, your 4 points are awful examples of ugly Americans. Why not list the talking points of why white supremacists hate black people? do we have to come together with them, come to a consensus? Whatever their snowflake feelings are, they're wrong, and are pushing an evil agenda. There's no middle ground.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
11. No it isn't
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:33 PM
Jan 2017

congress, governorships and state legislatures are chock full of asshat majority conservatives.

This country has increasingly been bending over to republican ass hatery for all of my adult life - over three decades.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
7. Absolutely.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:29 PM
Jan 2017

They're the ones who started this nonsense with talk radio.

Even if propagandists like Limbaugh didn't have the ratings, they still propped him up with money.

Lanius

(599 posts)
4. Well, only 58 percent of eligible Americans voted
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:20 PM
Jan 2017

So it's more like 28-30 percent of the country are "deplorable." Assuming of course some of those who didn't vote would've cast their ballots for Twitler.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
12. You are closer than most, but you don't factor in the middle third
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jan 2017

people want to think this country is split 50/50, but it isn't.

It is 1/3 of us dealing in actual reality.
1/3 of of us who are full out living in the alternative reality.

The problem is the other 1/3 which has been breaking more and more to conservative bullshit, either by voting that way, or just not showing up. People don't get this, but they what the people don't vote are saying is they are willing to accept it.

There were two choices - competent and decent leadership with hillary or chaos with DJT. It was clear as day. Anyone who did not vote Hillary was either full on board with the chaos or making a conscious decision to accept it.

And, that does not even get congress, state legislatures and governorships.

This country was full of jackass republicans at all levels of government long before November 8th.

Lanius

(599 posts)
18. The 1/3 of people who don't vote are enablers for the 1/3 who are right-wing nut jobs
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jan 2017

And, let's be honest, the majority of right-wing nut jobs are white folks. Minorities (when they show up) have almost always voted for Democrats or progressive initiatives. There's something (or many things maybe) that attracts lots of white people to right-wing politics.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
21. SPOT ON
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:52 AM
Jan 2017

That the 1/3 enable the right wing 1/3.

I have a HS friend who melts down constantly on me on Facebook.

He wants to think that he is some "independent" because he posts some light hearted jabs at right wingers very now and again. But, his screeds on LIBERALS are so visceral and emotive.

I call him out and he melts down.

He is like a lot of the people "in the middle." They don't agree with most of the right the right wing does, BUT, there is always one or a couple of things that the right wing pushes that they tie into and then it becomes about the evil liberal boogyman, and while they want to fancy themselves as "non-partisan" they deride the left, push the false equivilencies and EVERY time they do the bullshit "they are both the same" is when Rs do their crazy shit and they point at something the Ds do to excuse it.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
22. No, its 2/3s of the country
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jan 2017

People want to fool themselves.

1/3 of us deal in reality.
1/3 live in the alternative reality and complete lost causes.

The "middle" 1/3 is the problem.

It has been plain as day what republicans want to do, gut SS and Medicare, how the openly attack voting rights, etc. for decades now, and these people that don't vote or vote other parties are clearly willing to accept republican jack assery.

THAT is the problem.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. You're numbers are way off...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jan 2017

It's hard to quantify these things but hard core Deplorables are nowhere near 50% of the population.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
28. The Republican party created him
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:54 AM
Jan 2017

And owns him. The more we repeat this truth, the better our chance of peeling off support for them in 2017(NJ) and 2018.

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