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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:33 PM Jun 2012

Fighting The Fires On $14 An Hour And NO HEALTH INSURANCE

When you see the smoke of a forest fire remember the firefighters on that line facing danger and crowning fires make $14 and hour as SEASONAL workers. There is a full time work force, but many firefighters are "seasonal workers". What is most amazing is that they are NOT covered by health insurance, whether it be federal or other wise. They have to buy their own if they need it.

If they get hurt on the line they can get workman's compensation which usually takes a long time to kick in. Many of these workers suffer later consequences with things like chronic bronchitis and other respiratory ailments. They are essentially government employees without benefits.

Now these firefighters make a lot of their money on overtime pay that the GOP wants to end altogether. These fire fighters do not get unemployment out of season because they are "seasonal" employees. Many are young and college age, but many are not because this job pays more than most in the USA right now.

It is a fact that these fires occur where there are mostly "trophy homes". And the areas where many fires occur are in GOP territory in that these folks are mostly GOP. And the GOP wants to fire government employees who "MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY".

I would not put myself on that line for $14 an hour unless I were desperate for money. It is a pity that we have become a country where people are fighting fires for such a paltry wage which is NOT really a living wage with NO BENEFITS. It smacks of desperation for some of those firefighters. I am sure a number of them love to do that kind of work breathing ashes and sweating dirt while they are on the line. And when it comes to meal time I wonder if they get "filet mignon" or hot dogs.

And I will bet that none of those home owners with "trophy homes' for the most part work for $14 an hour. So the next time I hear one of those REPUBLICANS complain about government employees I am going to be tempted to shove a shovel right us their ass.

When I read this information in the Denver Post I was really surprised by what I saw. What have we become as a country when we are willing to say that people who provide the most vital of services should work for shit wages to protect and serve because many citizens say we pay them too much now. It says a lot about how far we have deteriorated as a country when these firefighters and our other firefighters and police are not entitled to decent pay and should get no pensions after years of service when a number of them will not be able to work by the time they are in their 50's.


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Fighting The Fires On $14 An Hour And NO HEALTH INSURANCE (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jun 2012 OP
I haven't worked since July 22, 2011. Swamp Lover Jun 2012 #1
meanwhile, health insurance CEOs are making upwards of $30K a DAY (coincidence?) nashville_brook Jun 2012 #2
I support these guys very much. Tough and brave. panader0 Jun 2012 #3
our country is on the worng path in so many ways.... robinlynne Jun 2012 #4
 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
1. I haven't worked since July 22, 2011.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:35 PM
Jun 2012

No unemployment. Hundreds of Resume's out and only a few interviews and no offers.

Where do I sign up and when can I start!!!!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. I support these guys very much. Tough and brave.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jun 2012

Many are seasonal but many are pro crews (smokejumpers) and as such make more (I believe).
On the other hand, when my local mountain was on fire I volunteered to fight it for free. I have worked in the woods in Oregon, still had my gear and knew the local mountain well. I was refused. I told the boss I would sign a waiver, that I just wanted the fire out.
He said no. I asked if I could help by driving guys from canyon to canyon, or delivering food or supplies, told no.
So I went home and watched my mountain burn for days.
That was in '80 or so, 13,000 acres. The Monument fire last year in the same mountains took nearly 30,000.
The Huachuca Mountains still have beautiful areas, but much is burned and brown. I can see them now out my window.
Bottom line is that forest firefighters need more funding, not just for wages but supplies. The slurry bomber planes are few and antiquated. Our forest are an important part of our ecology and are getting ravaged more every year.

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