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Right wing is out there building forts of false equivalence and stocking them with straw men (Original Post) TeamPooka Jan 2017 OP
Asshat Jill Stein tweeted a false equivalency today Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #1
Norm Ornstein on stein.. Cha Jan 2017 #5
The Jill Stein that bashed Clinton and dined with Putin? DetlefK Jan 2017 #12
This will have little affect SHRED Jan 2017 #2
Yes, the hour is getting late WheelWalker Jan 2017 #4
Just tell them President Obama followed the rule of Law.. trump Cha Jan 2017 #3
People with green cards weren't detained coming home from cruises under Obama either TeamPooka Jan 2017 #6
Another Valid Point Cha Jan 2017 #7
At some point you just need to shut that shit down The empressof all Jan 2017 #8
I like it TeamPooka Jan 2017 #10
This article explains in pretty good detail how this is VERY different: SeattleVet Jan 2017 #9
great article TeamPooka Jan 2017 #13
The M$M's "equally flawed" candidates was 100% bullshit that enabled them uponit7771 Jan 2017 #11
jUst listen To Sean Spicer.. coco22 Jan 2017 #14
 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
1. Asshat Jill Stein tweeted a false equivalency today
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:17 AM
Jan 2017

regarding Gump and Obama too. Their attempts at deflection are pitiful

Cha

(297,249 posts)
5. Norm Ornstein on stein..
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:31 AM
Jan 2017

The "Greens" helped get a Climate Change Denier in the WH.. they must be so smugly proud.




Throw cornel west in there, too.
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. This will have little affect
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:23 AM
Jan 2017

Jill too.

The hour is getting late.
Their nonsense is dwarfed by what we face now.

Cha

(297,249 posts)
3. Just tell them President Obama followed the rule of Law.. trump
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:28 AM
Jan 2017

is fucking with our Constitution.

blotus fact denierspokestrolls are pushing this too.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
8. At some point you just need to shut that shit down
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:15 AM
Jan 2017

That's what they do. If I come across that stuff I shut it down. Sometimes I will give them the facts in one or two sentences and then refuse to engage further...Usually I find that telling them to go away and I don't play that game shuts them up. They know what they are doing when they pull that crap. It's not worth your time. You aren't going to change their minds.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
9. This article explains in pretty good detail how this is VERY different:
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:33 AM
Jan 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps-facile-claim-that-his-refugee-policy-is-similar-to-obama-in-2011

Final portion of article:

First, Obama responded to an actual threat — the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bomb-making in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, had been a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and also impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.)

Second, Obama did not announce there was a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had been slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it was their policy to halt all applications. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.

Third, Obama’s policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling to the United States. Trump’s policy is much more sweeping, though officials have appeared to pull back from barring permanent U.S. residents.
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