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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRight wing is out there building forts of false equivalence and stocking them with straw men
Seeing lots of it on Facebook today.
"Obama did this to the immigrants too"
"Both parties are the same" bullshit
all of it
Grrrrrrrrr
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)regarding Gump and Obama too. Their attempts at deflection are pitiful
Cha
(297,249 posts)The "Greens" helped get a Climate Change Denier in the WH.. they must be so smugly proud.
Link to tweet
Throw cornel west in there, too.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Jill too.
The hour is getting late.
Their nonsense is dwarfed by what we face now.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)[link:
|Cha
(297,249 posts)is fucking with our Constitution.
blotus fact denierspokestrolls are pushing this too.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)Cha
(297,249 posts)The empressof all
(29,098 posts)That's what they do. If I come across that stuff I shut it down. Sometimes I will give them the facts in one or two sentences and then refuse to engage further...Usually I find that telling them to go away and I don't play that game shuts them up. They know what they are doing when they pull that crap. It's not worth your time. You aren't going to change their minds.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)Final portion of article:
First, Obama responded to an actual threat the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bomb-making in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, had been a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and also impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.)
Second, Obama did not announce there was a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitanos answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had been slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it was their policy to halt all applications. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.
Third, Obamas policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling to the United States. Trumps policy is much more sweeping, though officials have appeared to pull back from barring permanent U.S. residents.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)coco22
(1,258 posts)Every other word,Obama,Obama,Obama did it too but,leaving out facts.