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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:22 AM Jan 2017

"I feel that if a Muslim woman wants to move into this country, she needs to leave her towel home."



One issue in particular has sparked controversy and headlines this week: the new president's executive order temporarily banning refugees from seven Muslim countries. Bill Jackson says the action represents common sense. He thinks there's good reason to keep Muslims out.

"I feel the same way," Bill says, describing a broad concern that Islam is incompatible with life in America.

"I feel that if a Muslim woman wants to move into this country, she needs to leave her towel home. Because the reason this country is here and safe today is because of Jesus Christ," Bill says. "We were one nation under God. The Muslims are into Allah. They can't live there (in their home countries) anymore because of all the turmoil and unrest. Here we still have somewhat peace. So if you're going to come here to enjoy this peace, follow our rules and be one nation under God. Or stay home. I'm not making you change your religion, or whatever you want to call it, your belief. But if you want this, what we want, then you got to do what we're doing to get it."



A lot of Americans think one of the great things about this nation is that you can worship whatever god you want. Bill shook his head at that notion.

"That is something I believe that has come along with political correctness and all this other garbage," he said, insisting that America is a fundamentally Christian nation.

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/29/512336574/as-protests-emerge-brothers-agree-to-give-trump-administration-a-chance?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170129
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"I feel that if a Muslim woman wants to move into this country, she needs to leave her towel home." (Original Post) kpete Jan 2017 OP
This makes me wanna punch something. Lucinda Jan 2017 #1
Me, too. Bill for instance ... lillypaddle Jan 2017 #60
So sayeth two extras from Duck Dynasty... Dulcinea Jan 2017 #63
Two brain surgeons... Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #2
If it weren't for the snow... hamsterjill Jan 2017 #36
Bozos... panader0 Jan 2017 #3
To which I would reply: truebluegreen Jan 2017 #4
A truly hoopy frood. Iggo Jan 2017 #21
... truebluegreen Jan 2017 #47
And Catholic nuns in full habit? What about them? SharonAnn Jan 2017 #45
um, why ask me? truebluegreen Jan 2017 #48
And raise a toast with pan galactic gargleblasters! lapfog_1 Jan 2017 #56
Sadly true. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #66
Ouch 4Q2u2 Jan 2017 #5
The Pledge's history is quite interesting PJMcK Jan 2017 #19
Yep. I don't know if McCarthy was responsible, but I remember when we had to learn to put those two Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #23
But..if dem der woman wanta come from dat dare Soudie Arabia with dat earl for my pick up truck.... Bengus81 Jan 2017 #6
Look what the dude on the right Chipper Chat Jan 2017 #7
A pussy hat but in blue?? Bengus81 Jan 2017 #9
No. A "blue balls" hat. Barack_America Jan 2017 #50
ROLF irisblue Jan 2017 #52
He certainly sounds like a dead-ender dalton99a Jan 2017 #38
And they wonder why they can't get jobs. yardwork Jan 2017 #8
I've had to remind my fundy neighbor madokie Jan 2017 #10
Those men don't belong here and are not compatible with our democracy... Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #11
Somebody clue Bill in.... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #12
Lots of Christians don't believe that, and never will. nt. Mariana Jan 2017 #64
That's in New York! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #13
Unfortunately, they are. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #24
Dumb and Dumber... Pachamama Jan 2017 #14
I'm surprised that they even own a towel-something one uses after one showers/bathes! cornball 24 Jan 2017 #15
And the funniest part... hurple Jan 2017 #16
So, ask them to read this text greymattermom Jan 2017 #17
Stealing a line from Buzz Lightyear: "I don't believe that man's ever been to religious school" ck4829 Jan 2017 #18
If he actually studied and understood theology, he would know that mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #20
Not all major religions. Just Judaism, Christianity and Islam are traced to Abraham. hedda_foil Jan 2017 #27
I should have posted the three major religions. Point accepted. mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #44
Pardon me for a moment Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #22
The proble m with people like this is.. coco22 Jan 2017 #25
Maybe they are right NYETNYET Jan 2017 #26
and Nuns who still wear a habit. CanonRay Jan 2017 #35
But calling the idiots an idiot is somehow insulting to the poor little weak-minded Solly Mack Jan 2017 #28
word. KG Jan 2017 #39
Oh, I have words. Great words. The best words. Snicker. Solly Mack Jan 2017 #51
Perfect! tazkcmo Jan 2017 #41
I gave up a long time ago. Solly Mack Jan 2017 #42
/ underpants Jan 2017 #29
Fuck NPR for giving these yahoos a legitimate platform. RedWedge Jan 2017 #30
You beat me to it. What the hell NPR?? Not every voice is worthy of a broadcast. malchickiwick Jan 2017 #43
Allah IS God, you deplorables! muntrv Jan 2017 #31
As Mariana Said In a Previous Post Many Evangelicals Do Not Believe That erpowers Jan 2017 #67
...but Vladimir Putin is awesome! muntrv Jan 2017 #32
Colleges should start giving out degress in Turbineguy Jan 2017 #33
Hold on, hold on. They need courses. ck4829 Jan 2017 #34
what is that 'towel' on dipshits head? spanone Jan 2017 #37
almost reads like an Onion parody. KG Jan 2017 #40
dumbfuck racists want to give dumbfuck racist-in-chief a chance nt geek tragedy Jan 2017 #46
1 Corinthians 11:6 "For if a woman does not cover her head..." brooklynite Jan 2017 #49
I was going to point out the same... Docreed2003 Jan 2017 #61
Many People Do Not Read the Bible erpowers Jan 2017 #68
Also, remind the of what Jesus would have called God greymattermom Jan 2017 #53
when I heard that yesterday I wanted to hurl. and the nimnog irisblue Jan 2017 #54
Doesn't look like they have much use for towels. forgotmylogin Jan 2017 #55
Time for some history lessons. manicraven Jan 2017 #57
This whole dispute between Christians and Muslims is really getting old Calculating Jan 2017 #58
Christians and Muslims (As well as every other religion) live, work, and play together as well ck4829 Jan 2017 #59
They got beards too. Pretty suspicious. rickford66 Jan 2017 #62
Yeah, I think there should be a media moratorium Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #65
READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #69

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
36. If it weren't for the snow...
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

I'd swear they were two idiots from Texas! We have a surplus of these types around here.

There's not arguing with them because you cannot argue with stupid.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
4. To which I would reply:
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jan 2017

"Always know where your towel is."
--Ford Prefect, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

(a more serious response is pointless)

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
56. And raise a toast with pan galactic gargleblasters!
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jan 2017

BTW, pretty sure we can update the Guide again, "mostly harmless" doesn't quite set the right tone anymore

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
5. Ouch
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jan 2017

I am not sure what hurts more. My eyes or my head. Reading that was ice cream scream.

"One Nation under God" was that not put in by Fascist Nut Job Joe Mc. in the 50's.



PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
19. The Pledge's history is quite interesting
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jan 2017

It was not Senator Joseph McCarthy who introduced the bill to add the words "Under God." It was Representative Charles Oakman (R-MI). Nonetheless, the history is worth the read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
23. Yep. I don't know if McCarthy was responsible, but I remember when we had to learn to put those two
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jan 2017

words into the pledge that we recited every morning. It was Mid 50's cause I was in the 3rd grade at the time.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
6. But..if dem der woman wanta come from dat dare Soudie Arabia with dat earl for my pick up truck....
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:28 AM
Jan 2017

I'd be good with dat even if she was covered from dat dare head to toe......




madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. I've had to remind my fundy neighbor
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jan 2017

a few times that I'm non religious and its my right to be so.

I don't really care what someone worships as long as they don't try to make me believe the same shit. Of which many religious people do, evidenced by what they want to do with a Womans Body. Just for starters.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
11. Those men don't belong here and are not compatible with our democracy...
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jan 2017

They are too stupid to know that Allah is the God of Abraham...the same God worshipped by fine 'Christians' like them. I wonder if they realize that they are stupid as well as haters.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
12. Somebody clue Bill in....
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jan 2017

...the "Allah" Muslims believe in is the exact same God that Christians like him believe in.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
16. And the funniest part...
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jan 2017

Describe to them the founder's religions, without telling them whose beliefs they were, and they'll swear up and down "that's not christianity."

I've done that to many people...

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
18. Stealing a line from Buzz Lightyear: "I don't believe that man's ever been to religious school"
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jan 2017

* Even the most conservative and insular Muslims respect Jesus as a prophet
* It's called a hijab
* Allah is the same God of Jews and Christians, according to Muslims, and in my experience with Muslims, I've only heard "Allah" mentioned a couple of times outside of religious rituals. Rest of the time, it's just God. Including from a Moroccan coworker of mine who tells me that God protects me. I truly feel a lot better hearing that than the "not my problem" cliche espoused by a number of these so-called "real Americans" that Bill stands with.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
20. If he actually studied and understood theology, he would know that
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jan 2017

all major religions can be traced to Abraham, including his precious Christianity and Islam.

hedda_foil

(16,374 posts)
27. Not all major religions. Just Judaism, Christianity and Islam are traced to Abraham.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jan 2017

You could say the major Western religions can be traced back to Abraham.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
25. The proble m with people like this is..
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:57 AM
Jan 2017

they think everyone all over the world needs to conform to their culture whatever that is. He needs to conform and put on Native American attire .

NYETNYET

(212 posts)
26. Maybe they are right
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jan 2017

Women that wear head coverings for religious reasons should be banned. There is nothing American about what those women are wearing on their heads. Of course they all have ties to terrorism. Take the Amish, that's a group we should keep our eyes on. We can't overlook the Mennonites either. The terrorist tendencies of them and certain Jewish groups can't be ignored. There are even certain groups of Christians that dare to cover their hair. Yeah, I have to agree with what is being said. I haven't even listed all the religious groups with the obviously un-American beliefs defined by their head coverings.
Now a real American wears a ball cap. The grungier the better. If it isn't a breeding ground for fleas and lice, there might be something suspicious about them. There is an exception for camouflage. It is necessary to keep hidden any hint of the possibility of a working brain underneath. How are they doing?

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
28. But calling the idiots an idiot is somehow insulting to the poor little weak-minded
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jan 2017

ignoramuses.

You're called an elitist if you point out their ignorance. You're told you think you're better than they are if you try to explain how everything they just said is factually incorrect.

One of the biggest obstacles to explaining anything to them is how far back you have to go to the very basic of basics and move forward. You have to catch them up on so many things just to get around to the current single point of error.

And it's all pointless because they are as happy as pigs in shit, wallowing about in their ignorance, squealing their own praise for being so definitively wrong about everything.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
51. Oh, I have words. Great words. The best words. Snicker.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jan 2017

Seriously. I am so tired of these morons.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
41. Perfect!
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jan 2017

"...because they are as happy as pigs in shit, wallowing about in their ignorance..."

This is why I no longer engage in political discussions with idiots like these. I have only insults and derision for them.

No unity.
No respect.
No way.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
67. As Mariana Said In a Previous Post Many Evangelicals Do Not Believe That
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

I heard an evangelical on the radio complaining that some religious groups are going to Muslim countries and giving them bibles that use the word Allah. He wanted Muslims to be given bibles that only mentioned God. He is a believer of the idea that God and Allah are not the same thing. I am pretty certain many of his followers agree with him.

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)
33. Colleges should start giving out degress in
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jan 2017

ignorance. It would be a great way to attract trump voters.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
34. Hold on, hold on. They need courses.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jan 2017

Basement meth cooking 101
Advanced studies in explaining why you earned your welfare and minorities didn't
Right wing talk radio appreciation

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
49. 1 Corinthians 11:6 "For if a woman does not cover her head..."
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jan 2017
For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.


Hallelujah!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
68. Many People Do Not Read the Bible
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jan 2017

I believe there is a joke that says Catholics do not read the Bible. I think there many Christians who do not read or study the Bible and are not aware of what is in the Bible. I could be wrong, but I think many Christians would probably fail a test given on scriptures from the Bible. How many Republicans who push for having the Ten Commandments in or near government buildings cannot recite them?

I am not trying to insult or be mean to Christians; I am just point out many Christians may not know what is in the Bible.

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
54. when I heard that yesterday I wanted to hurl. and the nimnog
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jan 2017

who said he was a Clinton supporter also said he didn't vote.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
55. Doesn't look like they have much use for towels.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry, but they're BOTH wearing head covers. How dare they make any demands about what women, or any person wears?

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
58. This whole dispute between Christians and Muslims is really getting old
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

And BOTH sides are guilty of all kinds of atrocities and general ugliness. They LITERALLY worship the same God/Concept of God. The only difference is in HOW they worship, and their rules.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
59. Christians and Muslims (As well as every other religion) live, work, and play together as well
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe people like Bill in the OP and the fighters in Daesh need to see who profits from them being divided against the other.

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