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ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:17 PM Jan 2017

The RW Talking Points Have Come Down From Above: Obama And Carter Did The Same Thing

The talking points must have been issued last night, because pretty much every right-winger on my Facebook page, after having been deathly silent for the last few days, have all of a sudden re-discovered their bluster and are posting the exact same response: "But, but, but.........Obama and Carter did the same thing and nobody said anything then!!! You're all hypocrites!!! How DARE you try to smear the benevolent Donald Trump, who's only trying to keep us safe, with your hypocrisy!!! How unfair to try to paint such a poor victim who deserves our support as a racist!!!"

If you've noticed this same phenomenon and wondered how to respond, here's your answer. Just copy and paste the following link to the article in the UK's Daily Mirror.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/no-barack-obama-jimmy-carter-9717520

Done and done.

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The RW Talking Points Have Come Down From Above: Obama And Carter Did The Same Thing (Original Post) ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2017 OP
Here it is formatted for easy posting on FB etc underpants Jan 2017 #1

underpants

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1. Here it is formatted for easy posting on FB etc
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jan 2017

Trump - Obama - Carter. Differences primer/summary

No, Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter didn't do the same thing as Donald Trump's Muslim ban

From The Mirror UK - some pop ups so I'm posting the text below.

What Donald Trump is doing (2017)
*Ban entry to the US for people born in seven majority Muslim countries - Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen - including holders of legal green cards and visas - for 90 days
*Suspending the Syrian refugee plan indefinitely
*Suspending entire refugee plan for 120 days
*Bans entry to the US for dual-nationality passport holders - meaning citizens of the above countries who also hold, for example, a British passport, are also banned for 90 days.
*Prioritize Christian refugees over Muslims
*Capped refugee total to 50,000
*Did it out of the blue
Trump came up with his Muslim ban following the Orlando nightclub shooting, an attack committed not by refugees or migrants, but by a US citizen who was born in New York.
*Of all the fatal terror attacks carried out on US soil since 9/11, exactly zero have been committed by immigrants from the seven majority Muslim countries targeted by the ban


What Barack Obama did (2011)
Paused approvals of refugee applications from Iraq for a period of six months after two Iraqi al-Qaeda terrorists were discovered living as refugees in Kentucky.

What he didn't do
*Base it on religion
Obama's order - which was done with very little fanfare - selected Iraqi nationals based on geography and a specific event, not religion.
*Do it out of the blue
It was done in response to a specific event, and to allow FBI agents enough to gather fingerprints from captured roadside bombs, which they used to toughen their refugee screening process

What Jimmy Carter did (1979)
Placed sanctions on Iran after they held 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days
The sanctions included a block on all future visas issued to Iranian citizens

What he didn't do
*Base it on religion
The block was targeted at Iranian nationals, not Muslims
*Do it out of the blue
Carter's sanctions were the culmination of a long-running escalation of tensions between the US and Iran.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/no-barack-obama-jimmy-carter-9717520
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