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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts) Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:47 PM Jan 2017

David Corn, Mother Jones: "Is It Time for the Democrats to Wage All-Out War Against Trump?"

Is It Time for the Democrats to Wage All-Out War Against Trump?

With their base angry and fired up, they may not have a choice.

DAVID CORNJAN. 30, 2017 3:56 PM



This weekend, some prominent Democrats took to the barricades to protest President Donald Trump's executive order temporarily banning immigrants from certain Muslim-majority nations and limiting refugees. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts rushed to Logan International Airport to join the spontaneous protest there. Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey headed to Dulles International Airport outside Washington to decry the order as essentially a Muslim ban. Other Ds slammed Trump's move and praised the federal court order that temporarily froze part of the presidential order. It was a show of force. And it prompted a question: Was this a step toward a wider and deeper opposition to Trump?

Until now, the response from elected Democratic officials to the Trump takeover of the federal government has left some grassroots Dems underwhelmed and puzzled. The weekend of the inauguration, millions of Americans hit the streets to denounce Trump, his dystopic and divisive view of America, and his policies (especially those regarding women). The overarching message was fundamental: resist. Yet few national Democrats have mirrored back this sentiment to the progressive audience and to millions of Americans who voted for Hillary Clinton and have spent the last few months in a state of discouragement, fear, and anger.

Sure, Capitol Hill Democrats have spoken against Trump and his fellow Republicans' first stab at repealing Obamacare and have called out the early GOP talk of privatizing Medicare. Booker did break with senatorial courtesy to testify against the nomination of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), Trump's choice to be attorney general. Yet at the same time, several key Democrats—most notably Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer—talked of working with Trump on areas of common ground, say infrastructure spending. Sen. Bernie Sanders, the progressive firebrand, said he would be "delighted" to collaborate with Trump on trade policy. And most Senate Democrats have been voting for Trump's Cabinet nominees. Warren and Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), another leading progressive, voted in the banking committee for Ben Carson, Trump's hardly qualified pick to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Booker and 46 other Democratic senators voted for retired General James Mattis, Trump's choice for defense secretary. (Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York has so far voted against every nominee except UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.)

The Senate Democrats have indicated they will mount campaigns against certain Trump nominees, notably Betsy DeVos, the education secretary nominee, and perhaps Rep David Price (R-Ga.), Trump's eager-to-repeal-Obamacare pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services. But their response so far has created the impression of piecemeal opposition. There has been no big thematic push against Trump. The concerns and outrage of the 66 million Americans who had voted for Clinton are not being directly addressed. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) did mobilize a modest-sized boycott of Trump's inauguration after saying Trump was not a "legitimate" president. But in general, the Democratic leadership was not sharing the sense that a crisis is underway.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/donald-trump-democratic-opposition-executive-order-immigration
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David Corn, Mother Jones: "Is It Time for the Democrats to Wage All-Out War Against Trump?" (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2017 OP
DO. WE. EVEN. NEED. TO. ASK. THE. QUESTION? Raster Jan 2017 #1
David, and Mother Jones, are getting hammered with that same response Miles Archer Jan 2017 #10
DAMN! STRAIGHT! GaYellowDawg Jan 2017 #23
You'll be intested in this.. Cha Jan 2017 #24
Sorry, Cha... I am at work and behind our firewall... Raster Jan 2017 #27
Good.. you'll see it then. Something to look Cha Jan 2017 #40
Thank you! Hell yes! Raster Jan 2017 #51
It needs to say "It is time for Democrats to wage all out war........." NOT the other way around. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #2
Nancy thinks so.. Cha Jan 2017 #25
John Lewis always stands firm. A fucking Hero bravenak Jan 2017 #3
Absolutely! Cha Jan 2017 #26
Setting my dvr tonight! bravenak Jan 2017 #28
.. Cha Jan 2017 #42
Trade that powder that you always want to keep dry for a spear ck4829 Jan 2017 #4
I like that look on Chuck Schumer face madokie Jan 2017 #5
I know, right.. "mocking Sen Schumer's tears" Nancy's ready, too Cha Jan 2017 #29
YES. PAST TIME. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #6
This news.. Cha Jan 2017 #34
Yes. Next stupid question? nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #7
Yes . . . hatrack Jan 2017 #8
Really?!?! That this is being Asked scares the shit out of me uponit7771 Jan 2017 #9
See my comment above... Miles Archer Jan 2017 #12
I know weird question.. Cha Jan 2017 #35
Hell yes! nt DLevine Jan 2017 #11
Lead or get out of our way. C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #13
They haven't??????!!!!!!! tazkcmo Jan 2017 #14
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #18
They're overdue eleny Jan 2017 #15
I'm contacting Dems and asking "What is it you are planning to do?" LuckyLib Jan 2017 #16
They have been speaking out.. I've been reading about our Dems all weekend do just that Cha Jan 2017 #36
It's not much of a crisis to them... ymetca Jan 2017 #17
That's clearly NOT true. Cha Jan 2017 #38
thank you for that collection! renate Jan 2017 #49
You're Welcome, renate! They do care very much and I feel I have Cha Jan 2017 #50
Well I admit ymetca Jan 2017 #52
Actually, folks, we need to get some piss-and vinegar DEMs in the US Congress. nt NCjack Jan 2017 #19
I want a scorched earth opposition to Comrade tRump and Bannan Nevermypresident Jan 2017 #20
YES. RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Maven Jan 2017 #21
Unfortunately, Pelosi and Schumer are not the leaders for the current times. Tatiana Jan 2017 #22
Oh yeah Cha Jan 2017 #39
I hope she doesn't take impeachment off the table, this time. Tatiana Jan 2017 #41
RIGHT FUCKING NOW. YESTERDAY! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #30
I would say "yes" Lanius Jan 2017 #31
Yeah wel,l they've been out all weeken fighting against the Muslim ban and Nancy Cha Jan 2017 #47
FUCK YES!!! DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #32
And where are his taxes? C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #33
Scorch the Earth already! Lifelong Protester Jan 2017 #37
YES! highplainsdem Jan 2017 #43
Tune in to Nancy.. Cha Jan 2017 #45
Fuck your Republican "colleagues". They are goddamn snakes. Just do the right thing: SAY NO! dalton99a Jan 2017 #44
have you seen this? Cha Jan 2017 #46
Excellent. Surrender is not an option. dalton99a Jan 2017 #48

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. David, and Mother Jones, are getting hammered with that same response
Reply to Raster (Reply #1)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jan 2017

To be fair, it was a loaded question. But yeah, the time has come. It didn't come today. It came earlier than that. But it's time to go Viking and our Democratic leaders don't need to be told that.

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Raster

(20,998 posts)
27. Sorry, Cha... I am at work and behind our firewall...
Reply to Cha (Reply #24)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jan 2017

...tweets and twitter are a major security risk. I will check it out when I get home and can access from my network.

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madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. I like that look on Chuck Schumer face
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jan 2017

That is one determined look if ever I've seen one. Benedict donald ain't going to last very long I'd say

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LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
16. I'm contacting Dems and asking "What is it you are planning to do?"
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jan 2017

The people are taking to the streets. Do you think you can manage to speak out against the lunatic in the White House?

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ymetca

(1,182 posts)
17. It's not much of a crisis to them...
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:27 PM
Jan 2017

as they're all in "The Club", mostly getting rich off their so-called "public service", and protecting their "base" of well-healed cause-heads who give them large campaign donations.

All I am witnessing lately is a bunch of smirking shrugs, tepid "I'm shocked" statements, weeping "I'm worried" wails, or calls from ignorant celebrities for us to get our heads bashed in on the streets. A few exceptions, sure. But that appears to be just for show.

Oh thanks SO much for your support Ashton Kutcher, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Jane Fonda, and all you genuine (unlike the rest of us) "global citizens" who feign empathy then go drink champagne with your fellow jet-setters.

Liberal intelligentsia has failed because it gives itself awards for pretending to care for those it constantly exploits. A truer "meritocracy" there never was!

At least the Conservatives are now openly saying they just want us all to die. Gotta hand it to 'em for honesty, finally, and at the very, very least.

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Cha

(297,242 posts)
38. That's clearly NOT true.
Reply to ymetca (Reply #17)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:31 PM
Jan 2017



Senator Tammy Baldwin has started a petition asking Trump..

https://www.tammybaldwin.com/landing/e170129/

Reps Elijah Cummings and John Sarbanes join protesters at BWI Airport

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/01/29/protesters-set-for-bwi-airport-after-trumps-travel-ban/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028562794#post1

Standing Against blotus and Fhttps://www.tammybaldwin.com/landing/e170129/OR our Democracy!!




the link to your post to my list!

NYC_Liberal's Awesome List of our AMAZING DEMS!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8556227



























Patty Murray has tweeted a few times:

I urge this Administration to work to further our national security, not merely target individuals based on their religion or nationality.
98 replies 129 retweets 433 likes

So much of what makes America great is our diversity.
12 replies 89 retweets 328 likes

America has long been a place of safety for people around the world fleeing religious, political, and gender-based persecution and violence.

President Trump has slammed the door on thousands of people—many of whom are women & children fleeing horrific violence.
147 replies 680 retweets 1,132 likes

And just in the last 30 minutes, Maria Cantwell:

Sen. Maria Cantwell ?@SenatorCantwell
Actions by the administration that discriminate on basis of religion or country of origin betray our tradition of diversity & acceptance
41 replies 56 retweets 141 likes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028554125




And, Senator Gillibrand..




http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8556143

Our Dems! You're Welcome!
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renate

(13,776 posts)
49. thank you for that collection!
Reply to Cha (Reply #38)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jan 2017

It's easy to be cynical and say that the media don't report on what's going on, or that our representatives don't care, but that really doesn't seem to be true right now.

I've been watching CNN and MSNBC and listening to NPR, and reporters are definitely questioning whether what's going on is legal, why on earth Bannon is allowed to have this much influence, etc. Stuff that would have been mentioned in the past with a straight face is now being talked about with incredulity. Things are changing fast.

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Cha

(297,242 posts)
50. You're Welcome, renate! They do care very much and I feel I have
Reply to renate (Reply #49)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jan 2017

to go around and let anyone know it, who isn't informed what's going on but makes cynical statements anyway.

Thank you!


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ymetca

(1,182 posts)
52. Well I admit
Reply to Cha (Reply #50)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jan 2017

that the status quo proffered by Democrats is less odious than the outright slaughter of the innocents proposed by the Republicans. So there is that anyway. I guess I am just tired of being told I have been a reliable, productive, loyal employee as I am led out the door. My apologies for such cynicism!

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Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
20. I want a scorched earth opposition to Comrade tRump and Bannan
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jan 2017

and the "inside circle". I'm tired of hearing "we go high" and "we can't appear to be obstructionists" by Democrats. That ship has sailed...

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Maven

(10,533 posts)
21. YES. RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jan 2017

Stop graciously deferring to your GOP "colleagues" and fight them tooth and fucking nail.

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Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
22. Unfortunately, Pelosi and Schumer are not the leaders for the current times.
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jan 2017

We need someone less genteel and more in the mold of a Tip O'Neill or LBJ.

Any takers?

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Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
41. I hope she doesn't take impeachment off the table, this time.
Reply to Cha (Reply #39)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:35 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sorry -- I like her and I also like her daughter Alexandra. But she's not the one who can galvanize this budding movement.

Perhaps Obama will step in to fill the void.

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Lanius

(599 posts)
31. I would say "yes"
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:24 PM
Jan 2017

but I don't think the current Democratic leadership has it in them. They're too earnest in wanting to compromise and get along.

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Cha

(297,242 posts)
47. Yeah wel,l they've been out all weeken fighting against the Muslim ban and Nancy
Reply to Lanius (Reply #31)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:50 PM
Jan 2017

is going to be having a Town Hall tomorrow.. so many aren't informed of exactly what our Dems are actually doing..







Senator Tammy Baldwin has started a petition asking Trump..

https://www.tammybaldwin.com/landing/e170129/

Reps Elijah Cummings and John Sarbanes join protesters at BWI Airport

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/01/29/protesters-set-for-bwi-airport-after-trumps-travel-ban/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028562794#post1

Standing Against blotus and Fhttps://www.tammybaldwin.com/landing/e170129/OR our Democracy!!




the link to your post to my list!

NYC_Liberal's Awesome List of our AMAZING DEMS!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8556227



























Patty Murray has tweeted a few times:

I urge this Administration to work to further our national security, not merely target individuals based on their religion or nationality.
98 replies 129 retweets 433 likes

So much of what makes America great is our diversity.
12 replies 89 retweets 328 likes

America has long been a place of safety for people around the world fleeing religious, political, and gender-based persecution and violence.

President Trump has slammed the door on thousands of people—many of whom are women & children fleeing horrific violence.
147 replies 680 retweets 1,132 likes

And just in the last 30 minutes, Maria Cantwell:

Sen. Maria Cantwell ?@SenatorCantwell
Actions by the administration that discriminate on basis of religion or country of origin betray our tradition of diversity & acceptance
41 replies 56 retweets 141 likes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028554125




And, Senator Gillibrand..




http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8556143

Our Dems! You're Welcome!
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DinahMoeHum

(21,789 posts)
32. FUCK YES!!!
Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jan 2017

There is a time for bridge-building and consensus - and there's a time for choosing sides.

We are rapidly approaching the latter.

And remember, that old preacher Ecclesiastes said as much.

Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

Turn turn turn.

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