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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 04:23 PM Jan 2017

Trump Could Still Undermine the Obama LGBTQ Order He Just Reaffirmed


By Ed Kilgore

January 31, 2017
12:51 p.m.

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At Vox, German Lopez explains that another shoe may soon drop that could undermine today’s action significantly, or even effectively reverse it in many cases:

The decision to keep this executive order does not prevent Trump from signing another order that creates religious exemptions for the LGBTQ protections.

Depending on how that other executive order is written, it could allow federal contractors to cite their religious beliefs — for example, religious opposition to same-sex marriage or just LGBTQ people in general — to fire, refuse to hire, or refuse to promote an LGBTQ worker.


On the campaign trail, Trump said a whole lot more about protecting the right to discriminate as essential to “religious liberty” than he said about LGBTQ protections. Indeed, he received a definitive seal of approval from none other than Hobby Lobby CEO David Green, whose lawsuit defying Obamacare’s contraception-coverage mandate led to the most important Supreme Court precedent carving out an area of protected discrimination for religious individuals who run for-profit corporations. Anyone supporting that line of reasoning will certainly have no trouble exempting federal employees who claim a religious motive for disliking LGBTQ folk from the executive order allegedly protecting them.

So any celebration of Trump’s announcement today should be put on hold until we see whether it represents the president’s final word on the subject.

And keep in mind the overall context at play: Trump will tonight announce a Supreme Court nominee. “Religious liberty” enthusiasts are mostly rooting for Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Neil Grouch, who is considered an important judicial champion of their cause. If Trump goes in another direction, he could assuage hurt feelings among conservative Christian activists by a complementary gesture like a “religious liberty” executive order. But odds are he’ll let the potentially false impression that he’s broken with the Christian Right on LGBTQ rights percolate for a while first.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/trump-could-still-undermine-lgbtq-order-he-just-reaffirmed.html
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Trump Could Still Undermine the Obama LGBTQ Order He Just Reaffirmed (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Watch and see, Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #1
gay and proud confusion_land Mar 2017 #2
I completely agree! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #3

confusion_land

(4 posts)
2. gay and proud
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:40 PM
Mar 2017

if the LGBTQ community thinks Trump is an ally they are severally mislead.

We as a community have to remember, he has locked arms with those that wish to undermined everything we have worked so hard for.
The Republican party has declared war on the LGBTQ community, we are seeing this in Texas, more specifically in Houston with Same Sex Benefits....
This could go all the way to the Supreme Court and could lead to over turning Marriage Equality if there is a conservative majority.

Rhiannon12866

(205,535 posts)
3. I completely agree!
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:03 AM
Mar 2017

A big reason that Trump's so dangerous is that he can change his mind in the middle of a sentence and apparently has no recollection of what he said yesterday, let alone during his ongoing campaign. Trump is no one's ally, he operates by whim and is only out for himself.

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