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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:46 PM Jan 2017

Leaked Trump order proposes deporting legal immigrants who use social services

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/31/1628150/-Leaked-Trump-order-proposes-deporting-legal-immigrants-who-use-social-services?detail=facebook


Joan McCarter
Leaked Trump order proposes deporting legal immigrants who use social services
By Joan McCarter
Tuesday Jan 31, 2017 · 4:13 PM EST

This Trump order definitely has the strong whiff of Paul Ryan.


Be still whatever Paul Ryan has that passes for a heart! Popular vote loser Donald Trump is working on another immigration restriction and this one is right up Ryan's alley: punishing the poor.

The Trump administration is considering a plan to weed out would-be immigrants who are likely to require public assistance, as well as to deport—when possible—immigrants already living in the United States who depend on taxpayer help, according to a draft executive order obtained by The Washington Post. […]

While Trump’s immigration ban last week focused on national security and preventing terrorism, the new draft orders would be focused on Trump’s campaign promises to protect American workers and to create jobs, immediately restricting the flow of immigrants and temporary laborers into the U.S. workforce. The administration has blamed immigrants who end up receiving U.S. social services for eating up federal resources, and it has said immigrant workers contribute to unemployment among Americans who were born in the United States.

“Our country’s immigration laws are designed to protect American taxpayers and promote immigrant self sufficiency. Yet households headed by aliens are much more likely than those headed by citizens to use Federal means-tested public benefits,” reads one draft order obtained by The Post, titled “Executive Order on Protecting Taxpayer Resources by Ensuring Our Immigration Laws Promote Accountability and Responsibility.” The draft order provides no evidence to support the claim that immigrant households are more likely to use welfare benefits, and there is no consensus among experts about immigration’s impact on such benefits or American jobs.


Yes, you read that right: This is about deporting legal immigrants.

Because Americans will be flocking to those low-wage jobs immigrants now hold—digging ditches, making hotel beds, mucking out dairy barns. Note that immigration law already allows the government to keep a would-be immigrant out if they might become a "public charge."

This order would go further, telling the Department of Homeland Security to "issue a rule saying that an immigrant can't be admitted to the U.S. if he's likely to get any benefit 'determined in any way on the basis of income, resources, or financial need.'" And if they legally come into the U.S. and end up having to use public benefits, they can be deported. But it gets even worse—the person who sponsored them would be forced to reimburse the government for any funds they might have received.

They'll need to recoup that money, of course, because there just isn't enough in the coffers for all the tax breaks Trump and his cronies want to give their friends.
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C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
1. Do they have a magic machine that can read economic futures????
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jan 2017

What the fuck is this nonsense. Trump, you're a stupid and hateful asshole.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
5. Trump seeks to be a dictator
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:55 PM
Jan 2017

and wishes to silence all that speak against him.

I'd expect him to do as Iran or Russia does against anyone that protest him.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
11. "I bet protesters will be next"
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jan 2017

My money is on the press. Sunlight is poison to a person like Trump.

I lay even odds that Trump throws the White House press corps out of the People's House altogether at some point. This will be preceded by an attempt to "weed out" those who won't play ball (i.e. offer up softballs at pressers and write complimentary stories).

When this doesn't stop the leaks, Trump and his MAGAts will evict the entire press corps from the West Wing.





Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. How many of these dictatorial EOs are legal? America will need more judges to figure it all out.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:56 PM
Jan 2017

Judges fortunately can not be fired by Trump.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
8. It will be up to Trump's Justice Department to enforce any court orders against it.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jan 2017

Good luck with that.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
9. Most refugees will be put on this list
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:10 PM
Jan 2017

Refugees are legal residents but they need time to adjust. It is not unusual for them to receive some support, particularly early on in their residence.
Also, what about mothers fleeing domestic violence? They often need some support after fleeing abuse.

These are just two examples of how awful this is.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Yes there will be many who will
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jan 2017

applaud this POS. But,this will be the Straw that creates Social Unrest we have never seen before. And as we expect,Trump and his Idiots will call out the Guard,which will contain many of targeted Nationalities.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. I wonder if he'll yank SSI from those eligible in the provisions detailed in this publication...
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jan 2017
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-11051.pdf

"Who can get Supplemental Security Income?
Generally, if you’re a noncitizen in one of certain immigration categories granted by the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS), you may be eligible for SSI if:
• You were lawfully residing in the United States on Aug. 22, 1996, and you’re blind or
disabled; or
• You were receiving SSI on Aug. 22, 1996, and you’re lawfully residing in the United States; or
• You were lawfully admitted for permanent residence under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and you have a total of 40 credits of work in the United States. (Your spouse’s or parent’s work also may count.)
NOTE:
If you entered the United States on or after Aug. 22, 1996, then you may not be eligible for SSI for the first five years as a lawfully admitted permanent resident, even if you have 40 credits of earnings.
Some other noncitizens who may be eligible for SSI payments are:
• Active duty members of the U.S. armed forces;
• Noncitizen members of federally recognized Indian tribes;
• Certain noncitizens admitted as Amerasian immigrants;
• Cuban/Haitian entrants admitted under the Refugee Education Assistance Act;
• Certain victims of severe forms of human trafficking; and
• Certain Iraqi or Afghan special immigrants who are admitted as lawful permanent residents.
There are others who may be eligible for payments...."
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