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In my opinion, our democracy is under attack unlike any other time in our lifetimes. That is why the Democrats have no choice but to fight.
However, as the old song goes, they have to know when to hold them and when to fold them.
They cannot pick their fights solely on political grounds. They must have a logical reason to fight.
For example, the Supreme Court pick by Trump was nothing more than a hostile action, never meant as someone that Democrats could accept. Democrats should stand together in their opposition. After all, when Orin Hatch and Republicans start whining, Democrats can simply point out that Republicans blocked Merrick Garland for 10 months. This argument gives them standing for as long as they wish to block Trump's pick. They should fight it all the way.
Another example, Tom Price and Steve Mnuchin, have not been transparent with their financial dealings. If they were Democrats, the Republicans would be making the same argument. Mnuchin took an old lady's home over 27 cents! Price has probably been engaging in insider trading. The American people need to know. The Democrats have standing in these arguments and should fight as far as they can go.
Those are examples of where Democrats should fight. Unless they have a good reason, they will have a lot of difficulty opposing nominees or policies. When they are standing on principles and firm ground, they should oppose with all the fight in their bodies.
This does not mean they oppose everything. It is not possible to do so. But, where they have a strong reason to oppose, they should fight.
Those in the caucus that do not wish to join this battle may wish to think twice about whether they want to befriend the right-wingers in their states or whether they want to lose their Democratic voter support in those states. That is a decision they will have to make.
(on edit) Democrats should operate under the assumption that Donald Trump is what he is and he is not going to change. He is a stick of dynamite waiting to explode. He is over his head with conflicts of interest. The longer he is the leader of the Republican Party, the better it is for the Democratic Party.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)they pretty much have to fight everything and every nomination (all of which are ethically or intellectually challenged individuals). They will most likely lose many of these battles, but I believe they need to oppose everything across the board.
It worked for the GOP for many years. I think it is possible that it could work for Democrats as well, depending upon how they play their cards and get the word out as to why they oppose each nomination and policy.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)To oppose something for trivial reasons would be detrimental to our Party and to our future, in my opinion. I gave some examples above where we could win the American people to our side. That is an important point to remember.
Our natural inclination is to oppose everything. But, I don't think that will work with the present numbers in the House and Senate. We have to choose our battles carefully and fight to the death.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)either in Congress or the Executive. I pretty much stand my point of opposing everything
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Do you make a distinction between "opposing" and "fighting"?
We must bear in mind that the American people are the referees in all these fights. Since we do not have the numbers, we should fight those battles where we are on firm ground and have the backing of the people, imo.
we will need to disagree, but have you seen any nominee you believe is qualified to lead their department or a policy or proposed legislation that is worthy of support by a Democrat?
You indicate that the American People are the ultimate referees and I completely agree. I believe that we only need point out just why each proposed nominee or proposed legislation is not in the interest in the American People and that is the best we can do while opposing those nominees and legislative bills. It will be up to them to make their decision.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)some are criminally horrible. But, it doesn't matter now, because they sent them thru committee without any Democrats present. Not much they can do in that situation.
coco22
(1,258 posts)street gangsters in the congress,who will bring it to Trump,Paul Ryan,McConnell when Dems get in power they say fuck us and say we have to be nice.
When CONS get in off they go straight to what their crazy ass base wants when Dems get in they play that dancing around the edges shit,that takes effect years later or republiCONS change. The shit Trump is talking about doesn't matter about jobs when your're discriminated against because of age.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I think when your forces are scattered in many different battles, then you are weaker overall. When you are lacking in numbers, it is best to fight the battles which can get the people on your side. Fight for a principle and a cause. Not politics.