Too busy fighting over the AG firing.

I want to know what the end goal is. Now I know.
And all the appointments make sense.

He is to Trump what Alexsander Dugin is to Putin. Bannon and Dugin want the same thing, and there is a lot of evidence to make a case that they are working together. If you haven't already, you should look into Dugin, too.

Read through this thread from the past week for a crash course:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028546674

want Betsy DeVos, she will be brainwashing children to the crusades too.

Her brother is Eric Prince and he is a mercenary Christian crusader.

The same thing applies to Trump's Supreme Court appointment.

It applies to all the Republican climate deniers.

It applies to all the Republican anti women's right crowd.

They all use the Christian religion as their reasoning for their belief and choices.

White Nationalist Supremacy and Christian Theocracy infiltrating our country. Both very dangerous.

They have been planning this for many years, and the time was ripe. Russia was totally involved too.

This needs to be stopped.

Can it be stopped ???

It may be too late.

The Republicans have complete control and they are ignoring existing laws.

And who can we thank for this...why those white college educated voters, that's who!

I would like a list of the colleges these people attended, so I can make sure that none of my grandchildren attend those bastions of "higher learning"!!!

his minions of hypocrite followers were the ones left behind.

It will, in effect. spread Trump U. all over the internet under cover of religious colleges.

I'm a Buddhist, and I don't want a theocracy of any kind. The thing that bothers me is that these ersatz Christians don't practice the teachings of Jesus to feed the poor, heal the sick, practice peace, nd love thy neighbor.

You are absolutely correct. The hipocracy is disgusting. Christianity successfully attached itself to capitalism and the results are ruining this country.

who does not confess him as their lord and savior is destined to an eternity in hell. They do follow the teachings of Jesus where he said explicitly that the law of the OT would remain fully in force until his second coming (and which gives modern-day Xians all the excuse they need to hate on everyone from women to gays). They do follow Jesus teaching to love him more than their immediate family (in fact, Jesus said that unless you hate your immediate family you cannot love him). They take to heart Jesus' words that he brings not peace but a sword that will divide families.

Hate to disagree with you, but these hateful Xians ARE following the words of Jesus, who was a very hateful personage in the fiction of the Bible. The fact that most people ignore or downplay or explain away the hateful shit spoken by Jesus doesn't change the fact that he said these things.

"Christianity" was defined and invented by Constantine the Great in 325 AD at the 1st Council of Nicea. He shaped Christianity to rule his empire. It was this council that determined the nature of Jesus to be the Trinity, when Easter occurred, the valid and invalid scriptures for the Gospel, and the laws of the Church. Most of the Church laws were inherited from Roman religious law. All people (mostly the Gnostics), who did not subscribe to the Council of Nicea were deemed heretics and exiled. Later, heretics were tortured and murdered. "Official" established Christianity has a sordid and brutal history. But it is NOT the teachings of Jesus, assuming that Jesus was a real historical figure and not a composite of many teachings from that time, as some scholars believe.

Personally, I think that Jesus was a real historic al figure, who was influenced by Buddhist Mahayana teachings that were prevalent in east Asia, Greece, Rome, and Syria and the Levant at time. The main teaching of which is about compassion.

Look them up for yourself. Stop giving Jesus a pass. He was a megalomaniac, at least as he is depicted in the NT.

those were words written much later after the Cruxifiction, based on oral history and wishful thinking. A lot of Christian theology was invented by St Paul, who started out as a Jewish ideologue hell-bent of persecuting Jewish heretics (Christians). So a theocracy that eliminates heretics is deeply ingrained into Christianity.

But I'm a Buddhist. So I see Christianity and the history of Christianity from a different perspective than most Americans. I find the established Church version to be highly unattractive, judgemental, and scientifically unsound. However anyone teaching and practicing compassion and the Golden Rule is to be valued and admired.

There are as many versions of Jesus and churches based on them as there are categories of mental diseases and the individuals contained therein.

I don't see this happening or them having much success in that direction unless and until a couple more states go full teabagger and call for a Constitutional Convention. Even then, they'd probably just argue endlessly about which magic Jesusland version they should install.

But that certainly could happen if we don't do something and successfully install Democracy at the local and state level

All one need know is that there was no reason for him to have existed to craft the Gospel accounts of his supposed life. All the milestones and events existed in religious myths that predated Jesus by centuries.

And, of course, St Paul didn't believe in a corporeal Jesus. And since the Gospels are based on Paul to a large extent, well, there it is.

That said, IF we are going to pretend that Jesus existed and IF we are going to determine any philosophy he supposedly espoused, then we need to consider the Jesus shit along with the Jesus shinola. If you want to trollop out the "love thy neighbor" stuff, then you need to acknowledge the "hate your family" crap as well, no?

Paul most certainly believed in a corporal Jesus. Where are you getting this stuff?

The Q is a hypothetical used to fill in the blanks. No Q actually exists, and some scholars believe the Q is most likely writings of Paul.

Where do I get this stuf? I study. A lot. You should try it.

Dr. Richard Carrier has some excellent lectures on that topic;

in a straight forward and compelling way.

I asked you specifically where you got it, and you chose not to answer and instead offered up what a lot know already about Q. None of the Lutheran scholars expound that Paul is the author of Q, and Paul is extensively written about by Lutherans. Then, instead of answering where you got it, you snarkily answer that I should try study. That is usually the reply of someone who has no answers. Thank you and Good Day.

by whomever? Yeah, that's a terrific source of information. And, we should all believe it? LOLOLOLOLOL

You can scoff all you want, but the fact remains that even if you decline to read a word of the Wiki article, you can't so cavalierly dismiss the list of sources that are embedded at the end of the article.

You asked for sources that would support the Christ Myth position. I suggest you avail yourself of that source list at the end of the Wiki article - which I said was a starting point in the discussion, not an end - and get back to us after you've read a few of the books that are referenced.

We'll see how valid your lols are after that.


The following books support aspects of the Christ myth theory:

Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions by Godfrey Higgins, 1836

The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors (or Christianity Before Christ) by Kersey Graves, 1875

The Christ Myth ( or Die Christusmythe) by Arthur Drews, 1909

The Denial of the Historicity of Jesus in Past and Present ( or Die Leugnung der Geschichtlichkeit Jesu in Vergangenheit und Gegenwart) by Arthur Drews, 1927

Did Jesus Exist? by George Albert Wells, 1975

An Anthology of atheism and rationalism compiled, edited, and with introductions by Gordon Stein, 1980

The Jesus Mysteries: Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, 1999

The Pagan Christ: Recovering the Lost Light (or The Pagan Christ: Is Blind Faith Killing Christianity?) by Tom Harpur, 2004

The Jesus Puzzle by Earl Doherty, 2005

God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (or God Is Not Great: The Case Against Religion) by Christopher Hitchens, 2007

Nailed: 10 Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed At All by David Fitzgerald, 2010

On the Historicity of Jesus by Richard Carrier, 2014

Documentaries

Since 2005, several English-language documentaries have focused, at least in part, on the Christ myth theory:

The God Who Wasn't There directed by Brian Flemming and featuring Richard Carrier and Robert M. Price (2005)

The Pagan Christ produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and featuring Tom Harpur (2007)

Zeitgeist: The Movie directed by Peter Joseph (2007)

The Hidden Story of Jesus produced by Channel 4 and featuring Robert Beckford (2007)

Religulous directed by Larry Charles and featuring Bill Maher (2008)

Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill (2013)

in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. So any teaching about compassion, no matter from whom of from where is a good teaching in my view. Whether Jesus was a real historical figure or not is not the point, at least not my point - which is, that today's fundamentalist "prosperity" Christians are hypocrites, who do NOT practice much compassion that I can see.

We have a term, "spiritual materialism" which was a term coined by the great Chogyam Trungpa. If you don't want to read Trungpa, Wiki has a decent definition of spiritual materialism:

it is used to describe capitalist and spiritual narcissism, commercial efforts such as "new age" bookstores and wealthy lecturers on spirituality; it might also mean the attempt to build up a list of credentials or accumulate teachings in order to present oneself as a more realized or holy person.

It implies that you have bought the arguments of the Exremist RW so-called Christians. I would suggest you check The Christian Left or The Emerging Church or even, Unfundamentalist Christians on fb. You will come across an entirely different theology in tune with the original teachings of Judaism (He was a Jew, not a Christian) dealing with: 1. Feed the Hungry 2. Clothe the Naked 3. Shelter the Homeless 4. Comfort the Sick 5. Visit the Prisoner 6. Treat the stranger in your land as one of your own. The 7th one, which relates to the first 6: Love your neighbor.

There is a divergence in modern Protestantism called Dominionism - aka Christian Nationalism - which relies on very poor eschatology - i.e., very broad and loose interpretations of the Bible (i.e., cherry picking and invention) to create a rather reactionary view of the world.

It pulls in a lot of things including Dispensationalism, Christian Nationalism, Muscular Christianity, etc. to create this timeline view of their view of Christianity vs the rest of the world.

Very scary as this is definitely a low-education approach and one which is virulently bigoted.

is the only true Christianity and that the Catholic and Mormon churches are cults.

It's such a deviation from the Jewish teachings, that many think Jesus spent time in the east.

Regarding old Testament teachings, I believe Jesus said he brought a new covenant, which is why the apostles asked questions regarding things like divorce (otherwise they would have just followed the OT without question). The NT never mentions homosexuality. I would guess that it was discussed, but it was removed at some point for some reason.

love their neighbours.

I noticed that "u" in your "neighbours." As a Canadian, I usually write it the same way, but I often omit it on discussion forums primarily populated by Americans.

onto us. Our country has done nothing to help the Buddhists in Tibet with the Chinese pushing them out and I fear they will do the same here. I fear for all religions that are not fundamentalist Christian. I even fear for Christians that are not fundamentalist. My sister in law is a Lutheran pastor and my boyfriend works for the Archdiocese and they do not belong anywhere close to the fundamentalist sects of those religions what happens to them?

But Again, the California governor and those behind him stated that California would always fight to protect its citizens. I Sure hope that will remain true.

The Handmaid's Tale is a book everyone should read. Prescient and scary.

There was a Christian theocracy in England, and it led to intra-Christian persecution, and once there were enough here, it started here too. Which is why the Founders said "enough" and wrote the First Amendment.

it's merely a story which they claim to have endowed them with specialness such that they can make up the rules themselves and everyone else has to obey those rules or die. They've been doing it for over 2000 years... and enforced slavery is on the menu.

They only care about what they can make it into.

The irony is these same people believe that we're in the "end times" and that prophecies from the book of revelation are coming true...and inherent to this view is the persecution and marginalization of their faith. Nowhere in their story does it imply that a the most powerful nation on earth would become a christian kingdom. The incongruence is obvious and it only speaks to their inability or unwillingness to think critically. Remember, these are folks that have a museum that pushes the idea of humans and dinosaurs coexisting.

accelerating the "end times"

That is why Pence is so dangerous.

They TRULY BELIEVE in their crazy fairy tale. They are totally blind to the reality that they themselves are the ones perpetrating this disaster on all of us. No need for god and the devil to ruin the earth when they believe they are going to and so figure they might as well join in since it is destined to be destroyed. My parents are these sort. They deny climate science because the bible doesn't talk about it. Well, the bible doesn't talk about dinosaurs or quantum mechanics either. They love their iphones, but deny the science that makes it possible.

Pence is also a real NUT!

...a christian nation. In fact, it implies the opposite and technically there won't be a true one until the return of Christ. There is also no prophesy of a third temple, in fact Herod's Temple was the third temple.

The book of Revelation states not too add to the book....yet these fundie nut jobs have done exactly that.

At this point, it has nothing to do with the Bible and everything to with a nationalism while compromising and distorting a religion for its own aims.

Not terrified yet, more like numb

of the Buy-bull - or of any religious fantasy - is terrifying.

And what would it even mean to have Xian theology written into our laws? Are we going to start stoning people (well, women - this is the Buy-bull, after all) for committing adultery? That alone would kill off over half the Xians in this country. No, what they really want is a privileged place in society, simply for elevating fantasy to the level of fact in their minds.

At its core, holding religious beliefs is a conceit. These theocrats are elitists whose call for a Biblical rule of law is actually a call for a system that they can manipulate to excuse away their own lawlessness.

They scour through the Old Testament to pick and choose what ever suits their hateful agenda while totally ignoring just about every teaching attributed to Christ.

I'd say their plans and beliefs much more mirror those of the very people they claim to be against.

They have nothing to do with religion or freedom! They are a slap in the face to the first amendment.

That is the big thing they don't understand. There is no "Christian" religion. There are a whole lot of different factions - some are very reasonable and some are down right terrifying. And unfortunately, the terrifying groups are the ones who are making all of the noise and who want to make all of the rules. Think Spanish Inquisition. BTW, I refer to Pence as 'Torquomada'.

white.

What color is Jesus? --- It depends on whose living room wall his picture is hanging.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2015/nov/07/ben-carson-house-homage-to-himself-in-pictures

The area that he was born in and lived at he looks exactly like the Muslims they chose to hate. I laugh at their stupidity.

What did Jesus look like?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Jesus

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Race_of_Jesus.ogv

It is only a short step from being a "Christian" Theocracy, to being a "single kind of Christian" theocracy.

The most vicious religious wars are between groups that are idelolgically close. Catholics/Protestants, Sunni/Shia for example.

Frankly, a return to the middle ages is not something I look forward to.

They are a truly frightening brainwashed bunch.

about this for awhile now. It really hit home when we had a "Christian" nutball in Dubya actually sit in the WH. That's when I realized this shit was real. It's only gotten worse since then, what with the total commercialization of Republican Jesus and such. You know RJ, that guy in the 'bible' that hates brown people, poor people, gay people, women, non-Americans and so many others. What a guy!

As far as bringing an end to the US, there is a faction of dominionist nuts in my family. I rarely speak to them, but when I have they're not interested in bringing down the US or ending our democracy. They're interested in ending the world so RJ can come and 'save' them while smiting the heathens. It's what they want.

That is what's horrifying. They want this to happen and they'll jump in whatever vehicle, even Dump, to bring it about.

Its not Politics!

What I hate about these guys is how monstrously self centered they are. Kill billions in horrific slaughter so they they can have Jesus patting them on the head.

there does not seem to be a lot of compassion for the Christians from south of the border. the only reason the malevolent ignoramus added exceptions for "persecuted religious minorities (aka Christians)" in his exec order was an attempt to give him "cover" related to a Muslim ban.

to bring about the Apocalypse ASAP

talking about Christian Theocracy as if it's all one and the same is a major Trojan Horse.

Take Calvinism. Don't they believe that it's already determined who goes to heaven from the time of birth? And nothing you do, bad or good, is going to interfere with your divine destiny? Well, how would you like someone like that in control of our government. Someone who has no reason to consult with his conscience because he could call for mass genocide and he would still be accepted through the pearly gates -- or not. What does he have to lose?

And then there are other Christian religions who encourage their people to withhold information from people who aren't part of their belief-system. Can you imagine the impact of having someone like that at any level of authority where they are decision makers?

So, when people talk about Christian Theocracy, let's get down to the kibbles and bits. Identify the belief systems of each Christian denomination that will be counter-productive to the tenets of our Constitution.

World headquarters in Grand Rapids, MI. She even graduated from freaking Calvin College!!! (Also in Grand Rapids!) That whole area of MI is full of those kooks. That includes both the DeVos and Prince families.

So start asking questions. Does she think she's one of the divine few? How does that affect the way she rules?

They could have paraded her nut-baggery for all to see.

Because we have been trained to have a hands-off on religious matters. That's the challenge for critical thinkers. How do you get past strong social mores which may have some foundation in the Constitution, like freedom of religion?

I revert to the public good vs individual rights argument. When someone takes a government position, they should be able to separate their religious beliefs if they interfere with their Constitutional obligations. a.k.a. separation of church and state.

They are interviewed by every news outlet, TV shows, newspapers, at protest,

at the inauguration, etc.

It is evident by those who run our public schools.

It is evident by those who are voted into state government.

It is evident by those who Trump is appointing for Secretary of Education.

It is evident when they start every conversation with I am a Christian.

It is evident that Americans haven't studied basic governemnt or civics in 20 years.

They cant comprehend. That their fairytale might be just that.

They just don't get the difference.

fled Europe to flee religious persecution

Many religious sects followed, founding many communities, to name
a few ... Amish, Svingli's, Calvinists, Swedes, Anabaptists, as well as
all the mainstream ones

Now the tolerated will become the intolerant

Are becoming increasingly irrelevant. They're also becoming increasingly militant (in response to their growing irrelevancy, one supposes), which doesn't fill me with calm.

But it's no question that religious nuttery has been kicked to the curb by Trump, and doesn't have the influence it did even under Obama, let alone Clinton and Bush.

The religious nuttery has NOT been kicked to the curb.

They have infiltrated our public schools.

They have infiltrated our state and federal governments.

Besty DeVos will be our Secretary of Education.

She wants our tax dollars to pay for religious schools.

She wants Creationism taught in our public schools.

Her brother is Eric Prince, is a Christian crusader who has his own mercenary army.

Franklin Graham Jr. has been given a seat at the table.

Jeff Sessions who will be our Attorney General and doesn't think secular people

are as smart as people who believe in God.

He stated this during his conformation hearing.

We will be inoculated against Republicans forever.

is now occupying the White House. Both houses of Congress are held by his enablers and supporters.
The Supreme court will soon be their rubber stamp.
What's to be afraid of?

...they've always been around, just never really won big elections before. The talking points and arguments have always been there, from the moral majority to the tea party, and the repugs always pandered to them, now they have (temporarily, I hope) assumed leadership of that party.

Essentially they are against the constitution, so their success depends on us being willing to look the other way while they shred our history and tradition. Interesting times.

in Canada based on LGBTQ persecution rules. I'm watching and waiting to see what happens. But every day I feel less safe.

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I'm sad that so many people are that stupid.

I'm mad at the people who are afraid to call these people on their ignorance and bullshit.

I'm amazed at how many educated people actually believe in this obvious bullshit.

But I'm not afraid.

Revealing their hypocrisy is like a bucket of water for the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz.

Government should be separate from religion.

Government should not be run like a business, either, because it isn't.

I had some imbecile tell me today that I should worry about being in a burqua. She apparently was fine with Trump's Christian dominionist puppetmaster doing everything he can to make sure that she and the rest of us are barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Yes. She is likely a FoxPropaganda watcher.

I try not to be afraid, because I don't think clearly when I am afraid.
I am extremely concerned.
I like to think that organized religion is in it's dying days and all of this talk about making America a Christian nation (or even as some people say "America is a Christian nation&quot is the religious people who have been obtaining wealth and power through manipulation. I think the young people today are not as easily fooled or want to be led down that path.

I could go on and on with this subject, but let me just say that I am glad you brought this up and I have hope, also partly through being connected with other free thinkers on the internet, that we won't get as far down this road as the right would like to think.

But they make a lot of noise and have
a lot of power.

Not enough to stop us if we ever decide
to fight they way they do.

They were promised if they voted for Trump he'd be gone sooner rather than later. Then they would get that radical religious RWNJ repub Pence. What makes me most bitter is that left leaners were warned about what would happen if Trump and the repubs won, but many of them wouldn't vote for HRC because she wasn't pure enough. WTF?? How's that working out for you now?

these people who want a Christian Theocracy, u will find that they have very few if any Christian attributes.

Hypocritical too . Imagine if someone pushed for a Muslim, Jewish, or Pagan Theocracy.

This beast is going to consume itself in an unholy orgy of fake, hypocritical modern day Pharisees (these idiot Dominionist x-tian fools) taking out the long knives on everyone not exactly aligned with their own very narrow interpretation of the fables of first century goat-herders and the fake, hypocritical modern-day Money Changers (bankers and businessmen who got in bed with religious fundies as a power grab decades ago) becoming horrified that they too are being run out of the Temple eventually.

The marriage of convenience between the GOP and the religious zealots of the right wing fringe is going to end badly for everyone.

My focus is on figuring out two things:
1) How to survive the carnage in the here and now as society consumes itself
2) How to rebuild a new society, more in harmony with nature and reality than the make-believe sick culture we have now

There is almost nothing worth saving in the existing system except the IDEA of America (with a re-written and plainly worded Constitution that does NOT start with the very concept of "All men created equal" while not counting ANY females and actually denigrating others with the ignominious "3/5th's" label). The freedoms that are protected should make it VERY clear that the laws have no basis in Judeo-Christian fascism or religion of ANY kind. I thought the founders were pretty clear on this...but a quick look around at today's landscape proves just how willing people are to prevaricate in the name of their own religion and why the wording must actually be STRONGER.

Government of the people, for the people and by the people is a worthy ideal.

The pre-American political paradigm was one of the "divine right of kings" and a elite ruling class, shut off from the people and running things in ways that perpetuated their own interests above all else (sound familiar????). Proper and functioning checks and balances against concentrated power is likewise necessary. But money is NOT speech. Access must never be SOLD. Politician is NOT a legitimate CAREER. President is NOT dictator. 3 co-equal branches are MANDATORY and cannot be allowed to succumb to politics and party lines. COMPROMISE is not a dirty word, but FACTS are not of a given variety or spin either, they are FACTS or they are LIES and no where in betwixt shall the two meet!

These modern day Christo-fascists are a sickening breed of hypocrites and small-minded people. The sooner they are swept into the dust bin of history, the better....and THEN we can get down to the real work of rebuilding a secular governmental system that is not so deeply dysfunctional and beholden to fear.

I couldn't have said it better, myself. Cheers!

Which version of Christianity?

Many Catholics/Protestants feel that the other is not a true Christian.

What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?

Christians in Ireland fought each other using terrorism.

Muslims kill each other in the name of the same Mohamed but different versions of Islam.

Jews have different sects with some diehard believers/haters against each other.

Purity in the faith for the extremists of all faiths.

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Oftentimes the method of religion is more important than the God of religion.
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The resultant leaders in charge will be Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

The game has been on for many, many years, with varying degrees of visibility.

Not so much about 'love' as 'Mammon' in the end, and down it goes into God's Lightning-type fakery and primal tribalism masked by gold-leaf bullshit.

is the opposite of everything Christ taught. He said that ALL of mankind were the children of His Father and His Father loved them ALL and as His Father loved them, so should we love each other. Religions were made by men to rule other men and are the main reason we have so much trouble in the world.

Well said from another Christian - of the "red-letter" type.

Welcome to DU!

Not only are they trying to destroy our secular society, they are undermining the central message of the Christian faith.

It's a small, vocal, POWERFUL group of people. The DeVos family has been fucking over West Michigan for decades. The number of churches per capita in Grand Rapids is absurd.

I remember back in the late 70s / early 80s there was a rural district near there where the issue being debated wasn't whether to teach the bible in the public school, but whether the district should be the ones who PAY for them. Seriously.

So, yes, be terrified, but not because there are hordes of Christian Theocrats. There aren't. Be terrified because of the power they wield.

And DeVos isn't really a DeVos, she married in. She's originally a Prince. Her brother is Eric Prince, of Blackwater and Xe fame. Amoral family marries into another amoral family. Yikes.

it's like Trump got every horrible psychopathic asshole out there to serve in his cabinet. Bleaghhh

Our democratic institutions are too strong -- I have more confidence in them than any relatively small band of nutcases.

And they do.

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and I don't think that money can change that --- Anyone who tries, will get a LOT of judicial pushbook...

No separation of church and state in West Michigan?

It might be a little better these days, but historically, it has been a never ending fight.

http://law.jrank.org/pages/12590/Grand-Rapids-School-District-v-Ball.html

I know it's too late, but I can't help it. It bothers me.

Her religiosity has caused great division in the family.

Most think for a moment, and then tell you they are busy can't talk.

Another group will quote a sentence out of the bible and when you ask them what that means
will deflect and move on like the bible quote its self is the only explanation.

A family member told me that "hypocrisy" is a little sin part of sins.

The lies, the cheating and the hypocrisy that follows, they are totally past feeling any bible guilt over
using lies.

Tikki

Leave in the part about God being with you without none of the parts of caring for the poor, mercy, etc.

There are many, but nowhere near the amount that they or Trump would like to claim. The terror comes from their positions in power and influence on others. They have honed their message with propaganda and newspeak to make up=down and right=left.

Diversity is our strength, but also our weakness. We have no bumper sticker meme to rally around, but a Trump administration should give us focus for what we don't want.

And it's scared me from the very beginning.