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Holy shit! R's just approved Mnuchin and Price w/o Democrats (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2017 OP
Good malaise Feb 2017 #1
Agree thinkingagain Feb 2017 #6
Fuck You Orrin Hatch! Raster Feb 2017 #2
KICK Cha Feb 2017 #3
The end. Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #4
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #17
The IKGOPR don't give a hairy rat's patootie about rules or democracy Achilleaze Feb 2017 #5
We handed them the means to do this, remember frazzled Feb 2017 #10
NO !!! The KGOP kept abusing the fillibuster so Reid HAD NO CHOICE!! uponit7771 Feb 2017 #18
I agree, but you can't deny that that choice has tied our hands frazzled Feb 2017 #20
Good. Drahthaardogs Feb 2017 #7
We are now officially a dictatorship. libtodeath Feb 2017 #8
Two crooks. kentuck Feb 2017 #9
They did the right thing malaise Feb 2017 #11
Wait JustAnotherGen Feb 2017 #12
Yes, they're in. It sucks. octoberlib Feb 2017 #14
Just changed my wording octoberlib Feb 2017 #15
Good on them madokie Feb 2017 #13
Our "republic" is dead. world wide wally Feb 2017 #16
It was illegal. One day notice in advance required to make that valid. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #19
The Democrats needs to call a press conference about this. octoberlib Feb 2017 #22
Where's the press conference with all the Dems .. ananda Feb 2017 #21

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
6. Agree
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:04 AM
Feb 2017

They bought them
They own them
It's all on them

When things go wrong as they sometimes will
when bad things are happening and it all seems up hill
its probably the GOP's fault

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. The IKGOPR don't give a hairy rat's patootie about rules or democracy
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

Full-on, evil-intended IKGOPR facism is here.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. We handed them the means to do this, remember
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:07 AM
Feb 2017

When we blew up the filibuster with regard to all nominees besides judicial, we gave away the keys to the store on this issue. I'm not saying we had a choice, because the Republicans would have blocked every Obama nominee for 8 years. But the consequences are coming back to haunt. We can't block any nominee without a fair number of Republicans coming to our side. And that's not going to happen. Or at least for more than, say one of these nominees (in that regard, we need to choose our battles wisely). Surrender Dorothy.

That is why we are over such a barrel with the Supreme Court nomination. The Republicans have said they're ready to blow up the rest of the nominating process by going nuclear on the filibuster for SCOTUS. Do we want that? I say no. We are screwed, and we might as well recognize it and hope they just implode at some point down the road.

ON EDIT: I'm not saying here that suspending the rules wasn't a huge breach of protocol and undemocratic power grab. It shouldn't have happened. It's wrong wrong wrong. I'm just saying we were going to lose these nomination fights eventually anyway. Our only power was to stall.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
20. I agree, but you can't deny that that choice has tied our hands
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:53 AM
Feb 2017

We can only make symbolic gestures now against a nominee while the Republicans hold the majority on committees and in the full Senate. It doesn't matter if every single Democrat holds strong by voting no. The nomination will go through. Apparently it doesn't even matter now if we don't show up for a quorum.



JustAnotherGen

(31,870 posts)
12. Wait
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:08 AM
Feb 2017
Hatch announces, by a vote of 14-0 (no Democrats present), that the committee has ordered Tom Price's nomination favorably reported


Hatch announces the Mnuchin nomination, by vote of 14-0 (no Democrats present) has been favorably reported


So they can go to a full Senate Vote - right?

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
16. Our "republic" is dead.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:43 AM
Feb 2017

We have no more "representative" government unless you are Republican.
Can we even keep a semblance of unity for the next two years?
Even after two years, will the election process be just a sham so we can keep pretending to the world that we are a democracy?
Sadly, we have dug our own grave and are about ready to lie down in it.
Once again we have killed the patient in order to save her. It's the "American way"

What will it take to "take our country back"? And do we ultimately have it in us?
Trump and the GOP are betting we don't.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
19. It was illegal. One day notice in advance required to make that valid.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:45 AM
Feb 2017

Per Rule V, suspension of the rules would have required a 1 day, advanced notice in writing. I don't recall seeing anything about this being done. Was the suspension of the Rules, then, not done legally?

http://www.rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=RuleV

ananda

(28,875 posts)
21. Where's the press conference with all the Dems ..
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:55 AM
Feb 2017

.. speaking out and saying that they should have been
given a day's notice, and therefore this vote is null and void?

Hmm???

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