So Greenwald should have expanded his comparisons.

Edit- FUCK Greenwald.

Edit 2- Greenwald isn't "Left", he's a schmuck who will say whatever he's paid to say.

still called a leftist by DU? It was these repulsive false equivalencies that led to the degenerate in the oval office.

think they do it because they like the results of the election. So while their criticisms of Obama/Hillary are full throated with no GOP equivalence anywhere to be found, when they're forced to criticize Trump, they have to include a diss of democrats/ Obama. It's amazing that people don't see through them yet.

black-and-white assessment of Obama's human right's record abroad while fighting terrorism, but I appreciate that someone reports on it and has an opinion. Deaths of foreign civilians aren't exactly the kind of thing our main-stream media gives a shit about, and certainly not the far most right wing of it, no matter which party is in charge.

That said, I understand your beef about false equivalency from the left. Greenwald has to know that Trump is going to have a devastating impact on foreign policy, and will almost certainly ignore international laws as he stacks up bodies and further destabilizes the world.

I still think, for the sake of Democracy, there has to be room to criticize both though, and the reach of left leaning journalism in this nation is just not that far. It's impact is at the margins. Our vitriol over that small impact compared to that of the corporate media, which delivered us Trump by pounding on emails and refusing to make this man the laughing stock he is, is in my opinion, misappropriated.

While I believe every death, civillian or otherwise, weighed on Obama - and that Trump will sleep like a baby - Obama still used military might when I believe diplomacy would have been a much better option. It is one of the aspects of Obama's presidency I found most troubling.

While the attempt may have been to create a falsle equivalency, it does not change the reality that a family has lost two children - one at President Obama's hand and, now, one at the hands of Trump. It is a tragedy - and we need to be aware of the devastation our foreign policy creates, regardless of who is orchestrating.

That is one very important thing that separates us from Conservatives/Republicans in this day and age. We can support a leader while criticizing and even condemning certain actions that go against our values. The other side has a very immature understanding of what support is. We need to not go down that path as well. Overall President Obama was a great leader and I believe that he is a good, compassionate person. America's foreign policy however, in the hands of Democratic Presidents, but especially Republicans has been very difficult on countries throughout the modern era. We can and should discuss that.

I do agree that Greenwald has taken to some very ill advised measures in his reporting. Republicans don't care and Progressives already understand the complexities, the positives and the negatives of our foreign policy even under the hands of President Obama. I think that this kind of reporting is self aggrandizing in saying, "Yeah, see, I'm objective because I find fault with both sides" But what it does is give Republicans and excuse (as if they need it) to maintain their entrenchment. In other words, Greenwald isn't changing anybody's mind here, he is just providing more cover for Trump supporters who will gleefully post, "See, even a lefty like Greenwald gets it. Obama Bad, so shut up"

Though lately I have no tolerance for Greenwald at all, and do not consider him a "lefty" at all.

which changes the equation in that he was murdered without due process.

The standards of evidence need to be high to do these strikes, or any other raid.

irresponsible to the nth degree.

It is true, and many people here were decrying it at the time. Others, well, not so much, because it's okay if it's our side doing it.

Wrong is wrong and we have a moral obligation to call out whoever is doing wrong, even if they are on "our" side.

The one think I loathed most about Obama was the drone campaign. Criminal and absolutely inhumane. Especially in this case, killing an American teenager without due process. Shameful.

Here's a brief article about it and and excerpt:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/how-team-obama-justifies-the-killing-of-a-16-year-old-american/264028/

Nor was he a member of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninusla. Nor was he "an inspiration," as his father styled himself, for those determined to draw American blood; nor had he gone "operational," as American authorities said his father had, in drawing up plots against Americans and American interests. He was a boy who hadn't seen his father in two years, since his father had gone into hiding. He was a boy who knew his father was on an American kill list and who snuck out of his family's home in the early morning hours of September 4, 2011, to try to find him. He was a boy who was still searching for his father when his father was killed, and who, on the night he himself was killed, was saying goodbye to the second cousin with whom he'd lived while on his search, and the friends he'd made. He was a boy among boys, then; a boy among boys eating dinner by an open fire along the side of a road when an American drone came out of the sky and fired the missiles that killed them all.