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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2014: The reason why the USSC is not afraid to kill Health care
OK, here is my brilliant theory. The writers of AFA were too cautious in 2009.
IF the act went into effect in 2010 or 2011. The People would have been living with the benefits of AFA and would rise in revolt if the court stole it away. Lower insurance. No one turned down for any reason. Health care for all would be a reality, and no one would allow it to be taken away.
But 2014 makes it easy to be taken away. Since 2009, health care has been invisible, off the radar. With that far off date, the people won't notice if its taken away. there will be no serious change in lifestyles. People suffer now just as they did in 2009.
2014 gave the repukes all the time they needed to attack the law.
Frankly if it goes down, I say we need to respond with lawsuits. Thousands of lawsuits.
Every time a human is turned down for any reason, sue the insurers, the doctors, the hospitals, the state agencies. Make the AFA a cheaper alternative to what angry citizens can do.
If you disagree, let me know. Just be gentle if you have to shoot down my pet theory for the day.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)My son who is now 19 is still on my policy and can remain there until he reaches age 26. If SC strikes it down, no more health coverage for him.
But I do agree with our other ideas, sue the hell out of all of them.
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)he's too interested in making money now. He's got himself quite a little ride service going for himself right now.
AJTheMan
(288 posts)Like the system that's used in every country except the United States.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Republicans would rather people fall dead in the streets than create another beloved government program.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)Maybe you think lawyers will jump up and pay the tens of thousands of dollars to file the lawsuits. Not going to happen.
Countdown_3_2_1
(878 posts)But I'm not a lawyer.
anyone should be able to file a lawsuit.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)But it takes thousands of dollars in research and deposition costs to have something a court would look at. If you think people have that type of money laying around to file endless lawsuits you are in a different world than I am.
dgauss
(883 posts)Hayes was making the same point that a quicker implementation would have made the benefits more apparent and therefore difficult to attack. He had a guest on that basically said the delay was necessary to ramp up the capacity of primary care physicians to absorb the estimated 30 million new patients seeking primary care. He gave the example of Massachusetts, a small state which "turned on the spigot" with their plan, adding 500,00 new patients without building up primary care capacity and the problems that caused.
He also mentioned there was 11 billion dollars in the ACA to build up that necessary primary care capacity, but Republicans whittled that down to 250 million. I thought he made a pretty convincing case for the rationale behind the delay.
Here's a link to the Up with Chris Hayes website. The whole interview was interesting but this particular point is addressed starting at about the 2:25 mark.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/47937222
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)If ACA is overturned, it will be entirely legal for insurers to deny coverage due to pre-existing conditions.
Angleae
(4,492 posts)nanabugg
(2,198 posts)to repeal the law on the basis of denying life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...and cruel and unreasonable punishment for the sick.
Sirveri
(4,517 posts)Scalia is in the pocket of the health insurance lobby, they may very well tell him to keep the mandate but invalidate other provisions that they don't like.
So the mandate might stay, while 26 year olds get bumped off their parents insurance and have to purchase their own insurance (at higher rates). Also bump off the 20/25% profit ceiling provision. Also dump any provisions which forces them to give insurance to high risk or pre-existing condition paitients (or lift any price caps on these individuals so they provide it at crazy high rates).
So that's probably what will happen. Unless Kennedy balks at the blatant corporate takeover, but maybe they've got incriminating photos of him.