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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:18 AM Feb 2017

Merkel on Putin: "This is typical K.G.B. talk. Never trust this guy."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/01/quiet-german
(very long article on Merkel's political career)

As a Russian speaker who hitchhiked through the Soviet republics in her youth, Merkel has a feel for Russia’s aspirations and resentments which Western politicians lack. In her office, there’s a framed portrait of Catherine the Great, the Prussian-born empress who led Russia during a golden age in the eighteenth century. But, as a former East German, Merkel has few illusions about Putin. After Putin’s speech at the Bundestag, Merkel told a colleague, “This is typical K.G.B. talk. Never trust this guy.”

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In 2007, during discussions about energy supplies at the Russian President’s residence in Sochi, Putin summoned his black Lab, Koni, into the room where he and Merkel were seated. As the dog approached and sniffed her, Merkel froze, visibly frightened. She’d been bitten once, in 1995, and her fear of dogs couldn’t have escaped Putin, who sat back and enjoyed the moment, legs spread wide. “I’m sure it will behave itself,” he said. Merkel had the presence of mind to reply, in Russian, “It doesn’t eat journalists, after all.” The German press corps was furious on her behalf—“ready to hit Putin,” according to a reporter who was present. Later, Merkel interpreted Putin’s behavior. “I understand why he has to do this—to prove he’s a man,” she told a group of reporters. “He’s afraid of his own weakness. Russia has nothing, no successful politics or economy. All they have is this.”

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Soon after the annexation of Crimea, Merkel reportedly told Obama that Putin was living “in another world.” She set about bringing him back to reality.

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A German official told me, “The Chancellor thinks Putin believes that we’re decadent, we’re gay, we have women with beards”—a reference to Conchita Wurst, an Austrian drag queen who won the 2014 Eurovision song contest. “That it’s a strong Russia of real men versus the decadent West that’s too pampered, too spoiled, to stand up for their beliefs if it costs them one per cent of their standard of living. That’s his wager. We have to prove it’s not true.”

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“This political isolation hurts him,” her senior aide said. “He doesn’t like to be left out.” (Russia had just been suspended from the Group of Eight.)

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As she got to know Obama better, though, she came to appreciate more the ways in which they were alike—analytical, cautious, dry-humored, remote. Benjamin Rhodes, Obama’s deputy national-security adviser, told me that “the President thinks there’s not another leader he’s worked closer with than her.” He added, “They’re so different publicly, but they’re actually quite similar.” (Ulrich joked, “Obama is Merkel in a better suit.”)




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An aging guy addicted to machismo, attention and the past. Does that sound familiar to you?
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Merkel on Putin: "This is typical K.G.B. talk. Never trust this guy." (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2017 OP
Putin and Trump sound like two peas in a pod. Sanity Claws Feb 2017 #1
She is an incredible asset to the West BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #2
Her biggest rival is a Social-Democrat with a political career at the EU. DetlefK Feb 2017 #3
That's a relief BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #4
Great article. dalton99a Feb 2017 #5
K&R!! 2naSalit Feb 2017 #6
K&R! Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2017 #7
Talk about "pampered".. what the hell does putin see in the Cha Feb 2017 #8
Sometimes it seems to me bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #9
resurrecting this thread: JHan Mar 2017 #10

BeyondGeography

(39,379 posts)
2. She is an incredible asset to the West
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:35 AM
Feb 2017

At least to those of us in the West who hold progressive, democratic values. I'm sure her insights helped shape Obama's attitude toward Putin and strengthen his resolve. Having traded Obama for Trump, we must hope enough Germans are taking notes and Merkel muddles through in Sept.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. Her biggest rival is a Social-Democrat with a political career at the EU.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:39 AM
Feb 2017

The german election this year will basically be Clinton-vs-Sanders.

Cha

(297,655 posts)
8. Talk about "pampered".. what the hell does putin see in the
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:30 AM
Feb 2017

pampered trump then besides being a malleable idiot who owes him money.

I guess I answered my own question.



Merkel receives Obama's final call to a foreign leader


http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-receives-obamas-final-call-to-a-foreign-leader/a-37201219

bucolic_frolic

(43,286 posts)
9. Sometimes it seems to me
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:40 AM
Feb 2017

the world hangs in the balance on Angela Merkel's success

She is the sole source of political legitimacy in a morality play
of democracy vs. varying degrees of fascism masquerading as populism

JHan

(10,173 posts)
10. resurrecting this thread:
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:37 PM
Mar 2017

In bold, she could well be describing Trump and his antics today :

"In 2007, during discussions about energy supplies at the Russian President’s residence in Sochi, Putin summoned his black Lab, Koni, into the room where he and Merkel were seated. As the dog approached and sniffed her, Merkel froze, visibly frightened. She’d been bitten once, in 1995, and her fear of dogs couldn’t have escaped Putin, who sat back and enjoyed the moment, legs spread wide. “I’m sure it will behave itself,” he said. Merkel had the presence of mind to reply, in Russian, “It doesn’t eat journalists, after all.” The German press corps was furious on her behalf—“ready to hit Putin,” according to a reporter who was present. Later, Merkel interpreted Putin’s behavior. “I understand why he has to do this—to prove he’s a man,” she told a group of reporters. “He’s afraid of his own weakness. Russia has nothing, no successful politics or economy. All they have is this.”

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