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Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:26 PM Feb 2017

Someone help me conduct a Facebook class on how a TWO PARTY system works, please!

Or some other social media outlet?

I truly believe if progressives who insist on voting 3rd party, some or all of the time, can be shown why voting 3rd party never, not ever, makes sense as long as you are voting in a TWO party system, that we can save this country.

This is not snark, I am serious. I understand why some think voting 3rd party helps somehow, but we need to show them how it never helps. And that it has nothing, nothing at all to do with getting more progressive candidates.

EVERY election, or in 999 out of 1000, the winner WILL BE either a R or a D.

We can show them how you start local, how you push for progressive candidates in primaries but then how you always, 100% of the time then vote for whoever the D is no matter what, no matter what.

I need help doing this...

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Someone help me conduct a Facebook class on how a TWO PARTY system works, please! (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 OP
Most people understand already ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #1
No, that isnt what voting 3rd party does, voting 3rd party gets you Fuckface Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #2
I know that's what it does ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #3
I don't know of any Democrat winning an Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #4
There is a case that can be made for Clinton '92 lame54 Feb 2017 #6
It has it's place... lame54 Feb 2017 #5
Not even then, and the reason is the message you are sending. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #7
don't agree with you in the least lame54 Feb 2017 #8
I know, and you are not alone, thus why I want to do this nationwide class. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #9
Don't need a class... lame54 Feb 2017 #10
That's pretty condescending Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #11
I think your idea fails with "conduct a Facebook class"... brooklynite Feb 2017 #12
Any ideas? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #13

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. Most people understand already
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:28 PM
Feb 2017

Voting third party is just their way of showing no confidence in either of the two main party candidates. It's the equivalent of writing in Mickey Mouse.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. No, that isnt what voting 3rd party does, voting 3rd party gets you Fuckface
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

Von Pussygrabber and it may even be too late, but I am willing to try.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. I know that's what it does
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:38 PM
Feb 2017

What I mean is that most people who vote third party also know what it does. They make a stupid decision on the spur of the moment just to show their dissatisfaction with the two main candidates. In other words, they already understand that they are throwing their vote away and are willing to take a gamble because either way they are fucked. Thing is, you and I know that it was the Russian propaganda machine that made it appear as though we were fucked with either candidate. So maybe a better way to go about this is an instructional video on how to think critically and avoid being swayed by propaganda.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
4. I don't know of any Democrat winning an
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:42 PM
Feb 2017

election because a third party sucked votes away from a Republican candidate. The Dems need to do a much, much better job of engaging young voters and welcoming them into the party. When I was in college the Young Republicans group was very active. I never saw any democratic group, granted it was in a red state, but still, I think it was a missed opportunity.

lame54

(35,321 posts)
5. It has it's place...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:45 PM
Feb 2017

If you know the D is going to easily win the state but you like the message of the 3rd - vote the 3rd to show support and keep the message alive

I've done that

if it's close get on board and vote D

those who voted 3rd in this last general have no excuse

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
7. Not even then, and the reason is the message you are sending.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017

Unless you are one of those who never talks or social media's about politics.

All the bashing of Hillary did far more harm than those who actually voted 3rd party and they did plenty of harm.

Promoting the idea of a 3rd party vote also promotes the idea the two on the ballot are not worthy, others hear this, they read this.

Etc

My position has nothing to do with liberal or not. I am more liberal than any person I know, if I told you about it you would probably say wow, you are really out there.

This has nothing to do with that.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
9. I know, and you are not alone, thus why I want to do this nationwide class.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

Explaining how a 2 party system works.

And no I am not being sarcastic at all.

lame54

(35,321 posts)
10. Don't need a class...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:50 PM
Feb 2017

i didn't just start thinking about this today

I thing you're absolutism is wrong

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
11. That's pretty condescending
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

Essentially you're telling someone who understands how a 2-party system works, but disagrees with you that voting for a third party candidate is ever appropriate, that they really don't know so you're going to create this nationwide class to educate them.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
12. I think your idea fails with "conduct a Facebook class"...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:02 PM
Feb 2017

...This is not the platform to convey anything thoughtful.

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