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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:38 PM Feb 2017

Rule Used to Silence Warren Was Created to Protect Delicate Feelings of Senates Foremost Lynching A

Rule Used to Silence Warren Was Created to Protect Delicate Feelings of Senate’s Foremost Lynching Advocate


An incident in the 1850s inspired consideration about adopting a rule to curb such excesses, but the Senate finally did so only after an ugly episode during a debate in 1902. South Carolina's "Pitchfork Ben" Tillman accused his South Carolina colleague, John McLaurin, of selling his vote for federal patronage. McLaurin called Tillman a malicious liar. Tillman lunged at him, striking him above the left eye. McLaurin hit Tillman back with an upper-cut to the nose. They were separated by other senators, and the brawl caused consternation throughout political Washington. Senator George Hoar of Massachusetts seized the occasion to propose a rule he long had had in mind: "No senator in debate shall, directly or indirectly or by any form of words impute to another senator or to other senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a senator." Once adopted, senators had the means of instantly quieting raucous or abusive debates.



The rule was created, in other words, to protect senators like Ben Tillman from hearing mean things that would make them so mad they had to punch someone. And Ben Tillman, as it happens, is perhaps the most notorious proponent of racial terrorism in the history of the United States. Here are just a few of the things Tillman said during his horrific political career:

"[We] agreed on on the policy of terrorizing the Negroes at the first opportunity by letting them provoke trouble and then having the whites demonstrate their superiority by killing as many of them as was justifiable." (Tillman boasted during the same speech that his pistol had been used to execute seven black men in 1876. Source.)
•"Lynch law is all we have left." (Source.)
"The action of President Roosevelt in entertaining that nigger will necessitate our killing a thousand niggers in the South before they learn their place again." (In reference to Booker T. Washington's visit to the White House. Source.)
"We of the South have never recognized the right of the Negro to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him. I would to God the last one of them was in Africa and that none of them had ever been brought to our shores." (That one was on the floor of the Senate itself. Source.)


Indeed, is it not obvious that we must protect the integrity of Rule 19 to ensure that the Senate continues to be a safe space for Ben Tillman's successors?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/02/08/elizabeth_warren_rule_19_and_white_supremacist_ben_tillman.html


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This. THIS is the arcane law Mitch dredged up to silence Warren. THIS! Anyone feel sick now. I do.
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Rule Used to Silence Warren Was Created to Protect Delicate Feelings of Senates Foremost Lynching A (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2017 OP
I just don't understand how this rule applies to this situation since the Senator in question is the TrekLuver Feb 2017 #1
You are being logical. There is nothing logical about this. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #18
I was surprised that no Dem Senators raised this point--it was also my first thought. flor-de-jasmim Feb 2017 #26
Then how apropos that it was used this time ... dchill Feb 2017 #2
There's a whole lot of dog-whistles going off right now! yallerdawg Feb 2017 #3
Seems appropriate. Squinch Feb 2017 #4
Snowflakes then. Snowflakes now. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #5
If pro is the opposite of con, what's the opposite of progress? Initech Feb 2017 #6
Why do White racists always allude to Black men banging White Blue_true Feb 2017 #7
Well. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #8
psycho-sexual heaven05 Feb 2017 #24
They're afraid the child will become the next Barack Obama crazycatlady Feb 2017 #9
Senators up for confirmation MUST be criticized in the Senate. Law trumps Senate rules. So Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #10
Link is wrong thesquanderer Feb 2017 #11
Fixed. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #14
Is the link wrong? I get an EPA article. Richard D Feb 2017 #12
Correct link Richard D Feb 2017 #13
Fixed sheshe2 Feb 2017 #15
Wow. Thx, Slate - Glad someone dug into this arcanity. Beartracks Feb 2017 #16
"Selling his vote for federal patronage." raging moderate Feb 2017 #17
Ironically enough, he's also responsible for the first campaign finance law Calista241 Feb 2017 #19
K&R betsuni Feb 2017 #20
Thanks for posting this. Could be useful during a Warren campaign. brush Feb 2017 #21
Speaking of Tillman, Clemson and Winthrop Univ. both have a Tillman Hall. raccoon Feb 2017 #22
yep and not surprised heaven05 Feb 2017 #23
Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #25
 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
1. I just don't understand how this rule applies to this situation since the Senator in question is the
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:42 PM
Feb 2017

one being considered for a superior position and naturally other Senators would need to comment on his disposition and record.

This rule does not apply.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. There's a whole lot of dog-whistles going off right now!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:55 PM
Feb 2017

The only bone that New Yorker had to throw - Jeff Sessions.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Why do White racists always allude to Black men banging White
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:46 PM
Feb 2017

Women? Like nothing else like jobs, good living standards and opportunity to make a better life is not far more important to those men.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. psycho-sexual
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 04:17 PM
Feb 2017

perverted thinking always drove these type of people because they feared the strength of the black man who survived slavery and post slavery cruelty to become MILLIONS...they were weak, deep down they knew it.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
16. Wow. Thx, Slate - Glad someone dug into this arcanity.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:16 AM
Feb 2017

And thx for posting, sheshe2.



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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
19. Ironically enough, he's also responsible for the first campaign finance law
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:05 AM
Feb 2017

The Tillman Act banned corporate contributions to political campaigns in general elections, but not primaries.

brush

(53,787 posts)
21. Thanks for posting this. Could be useful during a Warren campaign.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:33 AM
Feb 2017

There are so many hateful, arcane rules and procedures (legacies of slavery) that still exist in our government that need changing — and that includes the Electoral College.

Obviously turtleman was aware of this obscure relic and was itching to use it and use it he did — on a woman.

Interestingly the next day the late Mrs. King's letter was allowed to be read on the Senate floor by a man.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
22. Speaking of Tillman, Clemson and Winthrop Univ. both have a Tillman Hall.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 08:11 AM
Feb 2017

Clemson discussed changing the name but the motion was tabled.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. yep and not surprised
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 04:10 PM
Feb 2017

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in the least with this typical example of true ameriKKKana and culture.....it is people who wanted slaves, those who allowed slavery, post slavery segregationist antics, including lynching, castration and burning of human beings as well as homes and churches, and the typical racists in power today 2017 in D.C., who have caused this whole mess and take pleasure in perpetuating the mess. We all have to deal with supporters of this current political power structure, everyday, who are the ONLY people responsible for ameriKKKan ignorance and hate when it comes to racism. o'connell is a dipshit letting his true self show,...pig.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
25. Yes.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:57 PM
Feb 2017

They do take pleasure from it because they are pure evil. They are as heartless and inhuman as the devil himself. I hope he takes them all home someday so they can rot in hell for all eternity. By nature I am not a cruel person yet these people are soulless and deserve to live on with the rest of their ilk.

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