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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:40 AM Feb 2017

Trump now claims unnamed law enforcement told him NO

Trump: I wanted month delay before travel ban, was told no

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban-delay/index.html

Trump, speaking to law enforcement officials in Washington, said he argued before the order was finalized for giving travelers a month's notice before cutting off entry to the US.

But he said he was overruled by law enforcement officials, who he didn't name, alleging the delay could prompt a flood of dangerous terrorists into the country -- an explanation that failed to account for the lengthy process of obtaining a US visa or applying for refugee status.

"The law enforcement people said to me, 'Oh, you can't give a notice,' " Trump said at a conference for the Major Cities Chiefs Association. "I suggested a month. And I said, 'What about a week?' They said you can't do that because then people are gonna pour in before the toughness."

It was a surprising admission, given the President's full-throated defense of his travel ban. He even tweeted Sunday after a judge suspended its implementation: "Just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. If something happens blame him and court system. People pouring in. Bad!"

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Trump now claims unnamed law enforcement told him NO (Original Post) underpants Feb 2017 OP
I believe this guy has made stuff up before. dchill Feb 2017 #1
Lie number 7,506. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2017 #2
The problem with lying 99% of the time, why should this be believed? He has no shraby Feb 2017 #3
He's lying through his teeth madokie Feb 2017 #4
Excuse me? Are you the Pretzeldente, or a lap dog? Weak! deminks Feb 2017 #5
He is the President erpowers Feb 2017 #6
I Think The Flipside Is Worse ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #7
As mentioned in post #5 above - suddenly he's not the all powerful manly man underpants Feb 2017 #8
He's only powerful on Twitter NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #17
Since Getting Elected erpowers Feb 2017 #20
the only person he acquiesces to is Putin. Maybe Putin told him no. LOL KittyWampus Feb 2017 #33
He still wants credit for the EO (red meat for his base), but wants to shift blame KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #40
He really doesn't understand how all of this works, does he? Ilsa Feb 2017 #9
No they don't seem to be aware that there are recording devices underpants Feb 2017 #10
some additional context on Blumenthal here NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #18
Yeah the whole thing sounds like Trump doing a talk radio bit underpants Feb 2017 #23
it's worked for him so far NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #34
More of the psychopath's imaginary conversations with imaginary people Progressive dog Feb 2017 #11
Perfect explanation for this crap excuse he's peddling. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #21
I thought it was an unnamed spaceship that told him no. dalton99a Feb 2017 #12
At this point we may need to look into that underpants Feb 2017 #15
LOL. Donald, fly to the sun, go! dalton99a Feb 2017 #42
Uh.....he's President, isn't he? Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2017 #13
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES. I will believe NOTHING that comes out of his anus assed mouth. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #14
So says the person who, during the campaign, insisted we needed to strike without warning n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #16
It was those same "top Chicago police officials" who told him Mc Mike Feb 2017 #19
Maybe it was that guy underpants Feb 2017 #24
Might also be Sheriff John Barron from Warren County, KY. Or Sheriff John Miller from Mc Mike Feb 2017 #37
"Can you give us a source?" "It came from Chief Myass. Lovely guy, Myass." JHB Feb 2017 #22
LOL! LuckyLib Feb 2017 #38
So he takes advice from some podunk sheriff? randr Feb 2017 #25
Ah, so "some (law enforcement) people" told him... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #26
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL pangaia Feb 2017 #27
Trump lies with abandon because he has never been held accountable for anything he says or does. CrispyQ Feb 2017 #28
Here we go again. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #29
Of course, donnie. mobeau69 Feb 2017 #30
For us people who sometimes can be confused but mostly have good intent. nolabels Feb 2017 #31
Sounds like his comments about how they should not have given notice before attacking tblue37 Feb 2017 #32
Is there video . . . OldRedneck Feb 2017 #35
His Invisible Friend? dlk Feb 2017 #36
Pouring in before the 'toughness'. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #39
Trump is most likely lying to save face. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #41
Oh quit the lame excuses you big baby Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #43

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. The problem with lying 99% of the time, why should this be believed? He has no
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:42 AM
Feb 2017

credibility. He is fake news personified.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
6. He is the President
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:58 AM
Feb 2017

He is the President. How can a group of law enforcement officials stop him from doing something he wants done? I understand he is trying to claim the law enforcement officials were opposed to the idea of a weeks long or months long delay and that influenced his decision to move forward with an immediate ban. However, he is still the President. It is his decision whether or not to push for certain ideas and to sign certain executive orders. The buck is supposed to stop with the President.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
7. I Think The Flipside Is Worse
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:03 AM
Feb 2017

He criticizes the judge for the stay, but he was planning on holding off anyway. That tells me, there was no urgency to implement until after someone shut it down on legal grounds. Then it became urgent enough for him to publicly shame a sitting federal judge.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
8. As mentioned in post #5 above - suddenly he's not the all powerful manly man
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:03 AM
Feb 2017

he is desperate to have everyone believe.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. He's only powerful on Twitter
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:12 AM
Feb 2017

I mean, this is a guy who couldn't stand up to Megyn Kelly and was humiliated on stage with Hillary Clinton.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
20. Since Getting Elected
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:18 AM
Feb 2017

Yeah, since getting elected it has been everybody else's fault, except when things go right. When Yemen went wrong it was President Obama's fault. When good jobs numbers came in it was Trump's doing. Now that the travel ban is getting criticism, the travel ban was the fault of law enforcement.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
40. He still wants credit for the EO (red meat for his base), but wants to shift blame
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:49 PM
Feb 2017

for its shitty roll-out.It is all probably a lie and the exact opposite is true: prudent voices were urging him not to rush and he pushed ahead impulsively anyway.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
9. He really doesn't understand how all of this works, does he?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:05 AM
Feb 2017

His lies to cover his ass reflect his ignorance.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
10. No they don't seem to be aware that there are recording devices
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:10 AM
Feb 2017

Just today Snowflake criticized Chris Cuomo (CNN) for not mentioning Sen Blumental's lie about serving IN Vietnam. Yes Trump actually brought THAT up. Turns out it was the very first thing Cuomo mentioned.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
23. Yeah the whole thing sounds like Trump doing a talk radio bit
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:47 AM
Feb 2017

Get one talking point and just keep hammering it home.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
11. More of the psychopath's imaginary conversations with imaginary people
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:35 AM
Feb 2017

to justify his imaginary facts. (or as Conway would say, he misspoke about alternative facts)

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
13. Uh.....he's President, isn't he?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:37 AM
Feb 2017

If he wanted a one-month delay on the ban, his handlers could have written it a different way before giving it to him to sign, right? Of course, a Travel ban like this hasn't been in place ever, so why would another month have made any difference anyway? An illegal EO is still an illegal EO whenever it is enacted.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
19. It was those same "top Chicago police officials" who told him
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:18 AM
Feb 2017

to go ahead with his top secret plan to solve Chicago's problems, during the election.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
24. Maybe it was that guy
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:50 AM
Feb 2017

Last edited Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe it was Sherriff Clarke in Milwaukee. Hell maybe it was former Sherriff Arpaio

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
37. Might also be Sheriff John Barron from Warren County, KY. Or Sheriff John Miller from
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:34 PM
Feb 2017

Fulton County, GA.

He knows so many many top law enforcement geniuses. And it's not from all the criminal investigations he always has to defend himself against. So don't entertain that notion, even for a second.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
22. "Can you give us a source?" "It came from Chief Myass. Lovely guy, Myass."
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:46 AM
Feb 2017

"Everyone should give him a great big kiss."

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
26. Ah, so "some (law enforcement) people" told him...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:50 AM
Feb 2017

he should fuck things up.

That makes it all better. I guess he never takes advice because he's so smart, but when he does take advice, he makes sure it's bad advice.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
28. Trump lies with abandon because he has never been held accountable for anything he says or does.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:57 AM
Feb 2017

He is so unfit to be president. I simply can't imagine the mind that would vote for him. And yet, I know people who did.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
29. Here we go again.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:04 PM
Feb 2017

Because Trumpy said he did something doesn't mean he did it. Quite the contrary, it NEVER means he did it. There is no "law enforcement official" with whom he spoke, because what really happened is that he made it up after hearing a pundit on Fox. He didn't speak to anyone. This is how he gets his points of reference, just like his "thousands and thousands" of Palestinians in... where? New Jersey? Cheering on the WTC building collapses? He hears stuff on the TV or radio and he references the stuff as facts.

Trust nothing Trumpy says, and you're approaching the truth.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
31. For us people who sometimes can be confused but mostly have good intent.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:22 PM
Feb 2017

I would say D.U. is unreplaceable. It is wonderful to see how those who would wish to dispel confusion are so confused themselves that they don't even know what they saying or what they even have said in the past. Thanks, guys !

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
32. Sounds like his comments about how they should not have given notice before attacking
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:24 PM
Feb 2017

Mosul, and about why he won't let anyone know about his super secret "terrific" plan to defeat Isis. He says he wants to be unpredictable, but in reality his unpredictability stems from a combination of his cluelessness and his manic impulsiveness.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
35. Is there video . . .
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:31 PM
Feb 2017

. . . of his meeting with the law enforcement folks? If so, were his lips moving when he made this pronouncement? If his lips were moving, he was lying.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
39. Pouring in before the 'toughness'.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:39 PM
Feb 2017

Amusing how his lies contradict each other, too. He's lying in every case, and every lie gainsays the other lies.

Don't worry about consistency, twitler. None of your brain dead followers do.

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