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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was wrong about the Patriots.
I was wrong about the Patriots.
I judged a whole group by the actions of a few. That is never good!
I am so proud of Chris Long,Martellus Bennett, Devin McCourty and Dont'a Hightower in refusing to go to the White House.
Big shout out to Howie's son !!!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)but I still hate the team as a whole.
Come on, im a Sea-hawks fan, we hate everyone but the Sea-hawks.......
djg21
(1,803 posts)It was on another discussion forum:
"I try not to comment too much about what is in the news, but I've seen a lot of hateful comments in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little, but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a gorgeous foreign model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it's just going to get worse, but, like him or not, Tom Brady won the Super Bowl."
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)I'm from Cleveland.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I mean, only one of them is an Olympic sport.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Plus we have the first-round draft pick. (Uh-oh...memories of Manziel)
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)But I gotta give Brady and the boys credit. Best Super Bowl ever.
Best_man23
(4,898 posts)My hats off to those players.
Croney
(4,661 posts)Come on Pats, pile on!
NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)Let it continue.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)brush
(53,787 posts)AA teammates back in the day.
My hat is off to him.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)He spoke in what I thought was really a pretty remarkably-nuanced way about white privilege, about the desire to balance one's own patriotic feelings towards the flag with his recognition and understanding that not everyone else raised in this country really sees the flag in the same way he does.
NNadir
(33,525 posts)What the hell they're doing in Massachusetts I don't know.
Of course, their claim to fame is participating in a game that causes brain cells to die, so it's not all that amazing.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Because Bob Kraft and Tom Brady are definitely not that.
NNadir
(33,525 posts)I focus on definition number 2 from the Merriam Webster page:
1
sometimes disparaging : a white member of the Southern rural laboring class
2
often disparaging : a person whose behavior and opinions are similar to those attributed to rednecks
They're white assholes who openly endorsed a racist pig. It doesn't matter to me if they don't live in the South, and aren't exactly rural; they think like trailer trash, which in my opinion, they are.
I actually hate football, but I must confess I watched the game hoping Brady's empty head would get stomped some more: It's pretty obvious he's not a high level thinker and has a weak mind. I feel ashamed of these violent thoughts, but I confess they're real.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not every Trump supporter is a redneck.
In fact, many of his most prominent supporters are upper-class wealthy snobs (as Trump himself is).
NNadir
(33,525 posts)...people think is not about money.
It's about who you are.
Nelson Mandela is a tiny cell on Robbins Island was decidedly not wealthy, but he had infinitely more class than that asshole Brady.
There's no "upper" in a racist. They're um trailer trash in overly large, garish, trailers.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I just think it is important to recognize the different types of people that voted for Trump.
starshine00
(531 posts)I am a hillbilly by birth but I am not a redneck by any means.
And more importantly many of the rednecks that I have known in my life had middle class incomes or better even if their jobs were working class jobs. It is a mindset, there are plenty of rich rednecks, half of the fraternities in this country are full of them.
Don't worry about loathing Brady...it is not his fault our value system is so completely wacked that we give millions of $$$ to people who kick a ball around on a field all day long, the Superbowl to me is just symptom of a societal cancer, we have kids going hungry in this country, people living in the streets, and usele @sswipes like this get to be millionaires.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Just cause he married a woman from another country doesn't make him less so.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Now a multimillionaire who has dated/married movie stars and international supermodels. Homes in Los Angeles, Boston, and a primary residence on the Upper West Side of Manhattan (a gorgeous penthouse apartment, if you haven't seen photos).
Not a redneck.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)To improve healthcare availability for underserved communities. He also does a lot to fight hunger, as does Belichick. I don't know why either like Trump, but Trump has a way of ingratiating himself to real successful people. BTW, when Belichick went to the White House after winning in 2015, he seem to have had fun, even attending the White House Correspondent's Dinner later that year as a guest of President Obama.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I hope now you can see my animus toward the Patriots was a consequence of Belichick's effusive praise of Drumpf. I didn't hate them for winning. This boycott is making me see the team is so much more than him.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Props to all of them of course - stating that they don't feel welcome is a fact and they have too much self respect to share a room with the shitgibbon.
mythology
(9,527 posts)It would take greater integrity to say they wouldn't play for coaches who were caught cheating, a quarterback who has a mountain of circumstantial evidence he cheated and the quarterback who would have been happy to sell their parents snake oil to "cure" cancer/MS/Parkinson's disease that he isn't foisting on his mom.
Not going to the White House isn't exactly MLK going to Birmingham jail or John Lewis getting his skull fractured.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I never got into the cheating.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)For doing the same type of filming that all other NFL teams were doing? For not knowing that football pressure followed what is predicted by a cornerstone law of nature? For anticipating that physical fitness will be important in a Super Bowl and using their team fitness to cause Atlanta to wilt at crunchtime? For winning a Super Bowl overtime coin toss that millions worldwide were watching? Educate me.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Said he wants to stay with his family and continue celebrating during the offseason.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Those players have a minicamp in about four months, then training camp in about six months, relaxing with their families before starting hard physical fitness and strength workouts can't be put down. Why spend a day with a short fingered psycho when they can spend that day with their wives and kids?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)Chris's younger brother, Kyle, is a stud player for my favorite team, the Chicago Bears. Here's what he was tweeting today:
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Someone tweeted at him:
Chris Unite Merica @coolbearcjs
@Ky1eLong go to the WH with your brother @JOEL9ONE and post some Snaps or video...Talk him into going as it is a great honor to go there
He responded:
Link to tweet
Then someone tweeted at him:
T.J. Waite @TheGrtW8
@Ky1eLong focus on making your football team GREAT AGAIN and stop worrying about D.C. it's in good hands now.
He responded:
Link to tweet
Cha
(297,317 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I still don't care about them. But, I just became a Kyle Long fan! Thank you for posting that!
djg21
(1,803 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)I'm guessing some teams have had multiple no-shows for these events, for many reasons.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)They are playing a game and should be judged on their play. Tom has shit political opinions. The shit head can tear apart defenses if you give him time. Same with Manning.
As for Long, I will have to read up. His dad will take some heat too, that is a huge statement if he is not attending because of tRump.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)I have no problems supporting any other team in the league except them. And for the players, it is their job. That is all it is. They don't have to go to the white house. I wouldn't go either. I would conveniently have a stomach bug that day.
djg21
(1,803 posts)Kraft is a life-Long democrat who supported Obama and Kerry, and contributed to the DNC. He is friendly with Trump, but you don't know how he votes. http://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-loyal-to-donald-trump-2017-1.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/31/robert-kraft-praises-trumps-loyalty-he-called-me-o/
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)For anyone who tolerates and supports this fascist regime publicly. Especially anyone who is in a position of influence and power.
And just because he says we should support the inner cities does not make it ok to go soft on a regime that is out to destroy education, wome's rights, the environment, silence science, harass the media, cancel public television, terminate the EPA...the list is endless. If he was a true democrat, he should be appalled at what he is seeing. Friend or not.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Alan Branch isn't going either.
MrPurple
(985 posts)But they're naive to be seduced by his charm/friendship and not pay attention to the insanity of what he's said as a politician.
True Dough
(17,305 posts)He'll make an excuse for the players who aren't there or claim they weren't able to be present for some reason straight out of his imagination.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)But, I don't think he'll make any excuses. He'll just flat-out bash them, because he is just so petty and vindictive.