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Unanimous, 3-0 ruling against the so-called president! (Original Post) unitedwethrive Feb 2017 OP
this MFM008 Feb 2017 #1
watching cnn now mnmoderatedem Feb 2017 #2
add some context so we know what the hell you are talking about dembotoz Feb 2017 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #5
Actually there is. Maybe get YOUR facts straight LibraLiz1973 Feb 2017 #16
WHO IS REPORTING THIS? Not on CNN! anneboleyn Feb 2017 #4
No one is bigdarryl Feb 2017 #6
Oh, yes, they are. AP, for one. randome Feb 2017 #10
or as betsy devos says: 50% :) Marthe48 Feb 2017 #48
MSNBC is pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #11
Bwaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa. JTFrog Feb 2017 #47
Local news broke in with this etherealtruth Feb 2017 #12
No, it's only being reported by News organizations. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #33
45, you are the biggest loser ever! randome Feb 2017 #7
Overall GPA 💩 Initech Feb 2017 #25
Lower than zero! Brilliant! randome Feb 2017 #27
That was a joke on the movie Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping Initech Feb 2017 #35
Cue the Orange Histrionics Drahthaardogs Feb 2017 #8
Twitter storm warning! workinclasszero Feb 2017 #20
Winter storm Loser Marthe48 Feb 2017 #49
Que the Trumpster divers hoping for an attack to blame on this. n/t brewens Feb 2017 #22
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #9
Huh? onenote Feb 2017 #15
It's on MSNBC and AP is reporting it Connie_Corleone Feb 2017 #17
Ruling is actually out n/t TubbersUK Feb 2017 #18
Give it a break on YOUR bullshit, Listein and watch Old Vet Feb 2017 #21
Lol, Donald is that you? nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #45
Great day for America. ISIS is sad. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #13
Listening to the local San Francisco news/radio station unitedwethrive Feb 2017 #14
what the fuck is up with Wolf? mnmoderatedem Feb 2017 #19
Wolf "So Poor and So Black" Blitzer is about as smart as a bucket of latex rubber. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #32
Tomorrow: "Sean, can we expect more insults aimed at the judiciary after this?" randome Feb 2017 #23
LOLOL. Pretty good! - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #28
Oh, to be a fly on the White House wall right now... Hayabusa Feb 2017 #24
woohoo! fishwax Feb 2017 #26
THE SO-CALLED PRESIDENT! That's what he have to keep calling him. If that's what he calls a Judge. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #29
I like blotus ailsagirl Feb 2017 #31
That works, too. But 'So-Called President' is one they can't defend against, TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #34
I call him SCROTUS*, it sounds more disrespectful, lol catbyte Feb 2017 #38
This is true, TrollBuster9090 ailsagirl Feb 2017 #44
I wonder how many of the federal judges he can fire marlakay Feb 2017 #41
Appointed for life. mentalsolstice Feb 2017 #56
Yay!!! 2naSalit Feb 2017 #30
Eagerly awaiting the tweet storm! johnp3907 Feb 2017 #36
Whoohoo! lark Feb 2017 #37
9th circuit, what did you expect? malthaussen Feb 2017 #39
Actually I think we're safe either way. Amimnoch Feb 2017 #40
That's what I was wondering fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #46
Yep, 4 justices to issue cert. Amimnoch Feb 2017 #50
I think that is an accurate assessment Skittles Feb 2017 #54
A unanimous decision would indeed be sweet... malthaussen Feb 2017 #58
I don't think it would come back a tie. Volaris Feb 2017 #43
I tend to agree here. Amimnoch Feb 2017 #51
It would be sweet indeed. Volaris Feb 2017 #53
You've been trumped... Sancho Feb 2017 #42
Cleaned Trump's Clock Submariner Feb 2017 #52
This is a win (finally)! Tatiana Feb 2017 #55
#Loser! Cha Feb 2017 #57

Response to dembotoz (Reply #3)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Oh, yes, they are. AP, for one.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:18 PM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. 45, you are the biggest loser ever!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:17 PM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. Lower than zero! Brilliant!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:35 PM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]

Initech

(100,080 posts)
35. That was a joke on the movie Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:48 PM
Feb 2017

So Andy Samberg's character Connor 4 Real is reading the reviews of his new album "Connquest" and he's reading Rolling Stone's review and out of five stars, they gave it a 💩, so I figured Trump gets the same grade!

Response to unitedwethrive (Original post)

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
19. what the fuck is up with Wolf?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:21 PM
Feb 2017

he keeps chatting away with some republican while MSNBC has already gone into detail. Wolf has not even announced yet.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
32. Wolf "So Poor and So Black" Blitzer is about as smart as a bucket of latex rubber.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:44 PM
Feb 2017

This is the guy who got his ass whooped $65000 to -$5000 on Celebrity Jeopardy by ANDY RICHTER. Proving that Blitzer wouldn't even qualify as a SIDE KICK if he was auditioning for a late night talk show



 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. Tomorrow: "Sean, can we expect more insults aimed at the judiciary after this?"
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:25 PM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
29. THE SO-CALLED PRESIDENT! That's what he have to keep calling him. If that's what he calls a Judge.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:41 PM
Feb 2017

The same can be said of him.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
34. That works, too. But 'So-Called President' is one they can't defend against,
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:48 PM
Feb 2017

given that he himself referred to another official of the U.S. government that way.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
44. This is true, TrollBuster9090
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:43 PM
Feb 2017

"So-called president" might be even better (I'm sensitive to capitalization-- esp where HE is concerned)

marlakay

(11,471 posts)
41. I wonder how many of the federal judges he can fire
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:22 PM
Feb 2017

Or if they are elected? Does he only get to appoint when they quit? I know some are lifetime.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
30. Yay!!!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

The courts are independent of the other two branches, may they be the ones to save us from the tyrants in the other two branches!

And now he has to deal with the battle with his nominee for SCOTUS.

lark

(23,105 posts)
37. Whoohoo!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:57 PM
Feb 2017

A blow for sanity, which is in scant evidence in the other branches of government these days. Thank Goddess for the judiciary!

I sure hope that when this goes to SCOTUS that Kennedy sides with the moderate/liberals, otherwise things will be totally fucked with 2 courts and 2 decisions.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
39. 9th circuit, what did you expect?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 08:36 PM
Feb 2017

Now, if it goes to the USSC before Mr Trump's toady is seated, we could have a flashy 4-4 tie, which would mean the stay is upheld. Wouldn't that be nice?

-- Mal

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
40. Actually I think we're safe either way.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:18 PM
Feb 2017

Generally, federal overreach cases are JUST the kind of cases that Justice Kennedy crosses over on most of the time.

It's even possible that Justice Roberts would cross the line, especially after 45's verbal attacks on the judicial branch.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
46. That's what I was wondering
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:46 PM
Feb 2017

You need four justices for certiorari, right? Does that mean we could predict a 4-4 tie?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
50. Yep, 4 justices to issue cert.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:05 PM
Feb 2017

With the current SCOTUS numbering 8, I think a 4-4 split is the BEST case that #45 could possibly hope for. Not a chance that Justices Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Breyer, or Kegan would decide to uphold the decision.

Kennedy has long been the wild card, and this is just the kind of federal overreach type of case he's famous for crossing over on.

Justice Roberts has at least a fair chance of crossing over and deciding in our favor. He's been fairly good about maintaining the decisions of the lower courts.

Alito and Thomas have a tendency to align their decisions with conservative causes, but in this case, especially with #45's criticism of the court, it's actually possible that the SCOTUS to give a unanimous decision to uphold the lower court decision..

Damn that would be a SWEEEEEEEEET result.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
58. A unanimous decision would indeed be sweet...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:11 AM
Feb 2017

... and poor 45 won't be able to tweet "See you in court" after that.

However, on a sober note, it appears from things seen on the 'Net that some agencies are upholding the ban anyway. Makes no difference how the courts rule if the criminals won't follow the ruling.

-- Mal

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
43. I don't think it would come back a tie.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:31 PM
Feb 2017

Alito and Thomas for the dissent, sure, but Breyer should come down with the liberals on one (I would think) and that leaves Roberts. If he's feeling like the president is ignoring the court as a co-equal Branch, he will side with the liberals just to let the executive know he probably shouldn't be fucked with in his own house. I think this could be a nice test to see how much rope the executive will be extended by the Chief, but if they piss him off I think Roberts will have no problem jerking that leash a little.=)

I don't think it will be a tie, that's if the court even takes it to hear. A 3-0 decision is pretty airtight already...I would think the only reason to take it would be to closely examine an argument to overrurn, and that seems unlikley

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
51. I tend to agree here.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:08 PM
Feb 2017

I think a 4-4 split is about the worst we would face. I wouldn't even completely rule out Alito and Thomas making it a unanimous decision to uphold the lower court ruling in this particular case. That'd be a longer shot, but daaaaamn that would be sweeeeeet.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
53. It would be sweet indeed.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:49 PM
Feb 2017

But it would have to be so airtight for Alito to agree that the slow chimp of the group could fix the concepts in their minds; any opportunity for him to be a dick and empower the Imperial Executive he will likely take (I think he might secretly be one of the better-educated Deplorables)

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
55. This is a win (finally)!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:01 PM
Feb 2017

And now we are actually seeing the judicial branch (excluding the Supremes) step up to save us from the predators in the executive and legislative branches.

So, in a way, the system of checks and balances is finally starting to function.

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