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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy thoughts.... Flynn did not lie to Pence.
Pence knows all about it and lied his own damn ass off.
Zoonart
(11,878 posts)and neither is good for Pence. Either he knew and he lied anyway and is in up to his tits, or he didn't know and allowed himself to be duped which makes him stupid.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)JudyM
(29,273 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)Pence it up to hi holy roller eyeballs in this.
flamingdem
(39,320 posts)right about now!
triron
(22,020 posts)Botany
(70,578 posts)along w/McConnell
the word is treason
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Ol' Mitch's wife got a job from Trump!
Trump and his clan are in deep with the Russians.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)this is just a cover story in order to formulate some plausible deniable piece crap to shut down the lazy press. Watch Fake Noise run something up the flag pole in the next few days.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Recorded, in Flynn's former position he knew this information. Probably is why Flynn suddenly can not remember.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)So there was no readout
I wonder if it was 'still' listened to..
Grammy23
(5,812 posts)(Whether Flynn alone or others, too) and Russia has been known about for months. They were monitored well before Nov. 8th If the agencies knew and had the proof, wouldn't it make sense to continue the monitoring after tRump was in the White House?? I am going out on a limb here but am willing to bet they already have enough evidence of misconduct by trump and his campaign to indict all of them.
The main questions SHOULD BE why...if they know about the communications between trump's campaign and Russia, why was trump allowed to be inaugurated and move into the White House without investigation? How far does this whole mess go? Who knew what and when? WHY was this not investigated as soon as they knew about the contacts with Russia??
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)it's because they are now more relaxed in their secured positions of power and have lost their sense of secrecy that was well maintained before 1/20... and the case against them might be more powerful after they are in office. Some of the claims were mere speculation in many instances while waiting for them to gain office makes them all criminals. Maybe this will take down the whole party n the end by waiting until they were in office to make the charges stick.
They are in weenie-waving on steroids mode right now..
Grammy23
(5,812 posts)Maybe hoping to get as many of them as possible and put them on trial. . But the damage being done by trump every day is breath taking. Our standing in the world is eroding the longer this presidency continues. There was a surge in deporting undocumented persons in the U.S. Today, breaking up families and causing terror to many. True some have criminal records, but some do not, contradicting what trump said he would do. I am sure there is much we have no idea what is being done.
I just hope we get a resolution soon. The suspense is killing me. Just want this nightmare to end.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)From all the scary background stuff I have been privy to in the past, my half informed guess would be that is what -I would hope- is happening.
Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)Pence lied because Pence knew.
Pence didn't just say I trust Flynn, he said he could vouch for it, that he could confirm it (that Flynn did no talk sanctions/Russia).
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Then what is tRump going to do. Pence goes down by felony charges and tRump melts down mentally. Scary times we live in. We could have the Senate choosing both the next POTUS and VPOTUS. Scary indeed.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)These CIA guys have to be flying under the radar, not reporting to Trump's toadies.
blm
(113,087 posts).
get the red out
(13,468 posts)He is a gullible idiot.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Can you say kompromat?
Motley13
(3,867 posts)"I just wanted to call to say I love you" WTF
Just proves our next (very soon) president is stupid.
JI7
(89,264 posts)Pence has been looking the other way with so much of the shit going on because he wants to be president if/when trump leaves.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)...is that every remedy available favors the republicans...
Impeach Trump? Pence is President.
Pence Resigns? Trump appoints someone no one voted for, with a resounding ok from congress.
Pence and Trump thrown out over a corrupted election? Paul Ryan becomes president.
There is no punishment to their party for fixing an election.
It's maddening.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)on pretty much the whole rogues gallery.
They're going to lie and cover up and each step will provide more damning evidence in the end.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)And why should they be afraid? Even when caught, no one ever does anything about it.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Do we really think anything will be done? This is shameful.