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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Not totally in the loop": Republicans fear Mike Pence has lost his spot in Trumps inner circle
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/not-totally-in-the-loop-republicans-fear-mike-pence-has-lost-his-spot-in-trumps-inner-circle/
On the heels of Gen. Michael Flynns resignation it has been revealed that Vice President Mike Pence spent weeks doing television interviews delivering information based on Flynns statements. That information from Flynn has now been found to be a lie and intelligence officials and former officials revealed Flynn discussed American sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak prior to the inauguration.
Writing for the Washington Post, Robert Costa and Ashley Parker noted that no one sought to tell Pence that he had been misled for weeks, despite having the information. In fact, Pence only found out after the Washington Post broke the story that Flynn lied. Yet, aides to both the president and vice president report that the men speak on the phone or in person multiple times each day.
William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard, asked if the ordeal weakened Pence and claimed that everybody is trying to figure out that fact.
Marc Lotter, a spokesman for the vice president, told the Post that Pence only became aware of the Flynn situation last Thursday. He did an inquiry based on those media accounts.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... to and he wasn't out of the loop.
Or
Flynn is an absolute dumb fuck who lies when the truth would serve him better.
Either way no one in their right mind believes Pence was out of the loop and if he was then I can see the KGOP is in full panic mode because their watch dog isn't being informed
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)sounds a bit dangerous, politically. I'd be wearing earplugs and a sleep mask.
kevink077
(365 posts)The VP is the only person Trump cannot fire and cannot fully control. I am not sure he ever trusted Pence much.
dalton99a
(81,569 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Pence knew 'nothing' ... if you are older, this harkens back to Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Hero's
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)They want to salvage the compliant and orthodox half of the ticket.
randome
(34,845 posts)Yeah, I'd say he's WAY out of the loop.
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C_U_L8R
(45,019 posts)trying to keep clear of the gooey Trump fiasco.
But sooner or later, he's gotta throw Trump under the bus.
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...wrong. They are happy to portray him as "out of the loop" so he'll be "clean" for the Presidency.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)because if that happens he leaves in disgrace.
I think Pence was pushed upon Trump by Koch, etc. money boys and the inner circle thinks he's A. An idiot B. Someone to work around
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...of "they" as the establishment Republicans.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)would be gone with one fast swoop, but in this case I think they want Pence out of it so he will be the next pResident. But Pence knew too he is not in the clear by no means.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)But I'm not buying it. Pence is one of the coup plotters.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)hatrack
(59,592 posts)Or at least, squeaky clean looking - in case of Impeachment, break glass.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)to go for impechment
Buckeyeblue
(5,500 posts)If they both go, there is no right wing legislative agenda. The SC seat, and any others that become vacant, stays open.
But with Pence there is a small chance to move forward.
If I were Pence I'd go back to Indiana on a vacation and stay there as long as possible.
moriah
(8,311 posts)yodermon
(6,143 posts)as has been aptly pointed out all over this thread.
can't be stressed enough, though.
BumRushDaShow
(129,391 posts)He was planted there by the teabagger establishment to be the Trojan Horse candidate (and eventually President).
Drumpf was "used" by everyone under the sun (both here in the U.S. & Russia), to fulfill their wildest dreams. Problem is, they have an unstable substance of a man that they are having difficulty handling and all his hangers-on are clashing with all the others...
erinlough
(2,176 posts)He will turn on Pence right away. Donny has no love for the Republican Party and he will take them down with him.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)to portray him as an innocent victim who was out-of-the loop and misled by the sacrificial lamb Flynn.