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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:26 AM Feb 2017

"Not totally in the loop": Republicans fear Mike Pence has lost his spot in Trumps inner circle

‘Not totally in the loop’: Republicans fear Mike Pence has lost his spot in Trump’s inner circle

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/not-totally-in-the-loop-republicans-fear-mike-pence-has-lost-his-spot-in-trumps-inner-circle/

On the heels of Gen. Michael Flynn’s resignation it has been revealed that Vice President Mike Pence spent weeks doing television interviews delivering information based on Flynn’s statements. That information from Flynn has now been found to be a lie and intelligence officials and former officials revealed Flynn discussed American sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak prior to the inauguration.

Writing for the Washington Post, Robert Costa and Ashley Parker noted that no one sought to tell Pence that he had been misled for weeks, despite having the information. In fact, Pence only found out after the Washington Post broke the story that Flynn lied. Yet, aides to both the president and vice president report that the men speak on the phone or in person multiple times each day.

William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard, asked if the ordeal weakened Pence and claimed that everybody is trying to figure out that fact.

Marc Lotter, a spokesman for the vice president, told the Post that Pence only became aware of the Flynn situation last Thursday. “He did an inquiry based on those media accounts.”
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"Not totally in the loop": Republicans fear Mike Pence has lost his spot in Trumps inner circle (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2017 OP
Ryan said on MJ that it was Flynns "job" to talk to foreign folk. Then in that case Pence wasnt lied uponit7771 Feb 2017 #1
A spot on the inner circle Turbineguy Feb 2017 #2
Makes sense really kevink077 Feb 2017 #3
They're trying to make him look like a clean guy. dalton99a Feb 2017 #4
That is exactly it etherealtruth Feb 2017 #9
Bingo. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #10
"He did an inquiry..." You mean he couldn't simply walk into the Oval Office and ask his boss? randome Feb 2017 #5
Pence is just biding his time C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #6
No... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #7
Who is "they" though. Trump doesn't want Pence to take his spot flamingdem Feb 2017 #12
I think... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #18
I wish all of them bdamomma Feb 2017 #13
Pence should prepare himself for an "under the bus" experience. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #8
They're just creating plausible deniability so Pence can take over post-impeachment. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #11
Bullshit! Lock 'em all up. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2017 #14
Oh, bullshit - they need to keep the Hoosier Mortician squeaky clean . . . hatrack Feb 2017 #15
If that's the case then I think the repukes wpould be more likely gopiscrap Feb 2017 #16
Pence has to be kept clean Buckeyeblue Feb 2017 #17
If true, it's only to block him from getting impeached first. Nt moriah Feb 2017 #19
BEWARE they are just trying to scrub him to replaced donnie yodermon Feb 2017 #20
Pence was never "in the loop" BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #21
Well if Donny is pushed out and Pence knows anything.... erinlough Feb 2017 #22
Pence is the GOP's plan B, their man on the inside and they're pulling out the stops Cognitive_Resonance Feb 2017 #23

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
1. Ryan said on MJ that it was Flynns "job" to talk to foreign folk. Then in that case Pence wasnt lied
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:28 AM
Feb 2017

... to and he wasn't out of the loop.

Or

Flynn is an absolute dumb fuck who lies when the truth would serve him better.

Either way no one in their right mind believes Pence was out of the loop and if he was then I can see the KGOP is in full panic mode because their watch dog isn't being informed

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
2. A spot on the inner circle
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:28 AM
Feb 2017

sounds a bit dangerous, politically. I'd be wearing earplugs and a sleep mask.

kevink077

(365 posts)
3. Makes sense really
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:30 AM
Feb 2017

The VP is the only person Trump cannot fire and cannot fully control. I am not sure he ever trusted Pence much.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
9. That is exactly it
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:39 AM
Feb 2017

Pence knew 'nothing' ... if you are older, this harkens back to Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Hero's

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. "He did an inquiry..." You mean he couldn't simply walk into the Oval Office and ask his boss?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:30 AM
Feb 2017

Yeah, I'd say he's WAY out of the loop.
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C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
6. Pence is just biding his time
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:32 AM
Feb 2017

trying to keep clear of the gooey Trump fiasco.

But sooner or later, he's gotta throw Trump under the bus.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
12. Who is "they" though. Trump doesn't want Pence to take his spot
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:48 AM
Feb 2017

because if that happens he leaves in disgrace.

I think Pence was pushed upon Trump by Koch, etc. money boys and the inner circle thinks he's A. An idiot B. Someone to work around

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
13. I wish all of them
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:50 AM
Feb 2017

would be gone with one fast swoop, but in this case I think they want Pence out of it so he will be the next pResident. But Pence knew too he is not in the clear by no means.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. They're just creating plausible deniability so Pence can take over post-impeachment.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:47 AM
Feb 2017

But I'm not buying it. Pence is one of the coup plotters.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
15. Oh, bullshit - they need to keep the Hoosier Mortician squeaky clean . . .
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:53 AM
Feb 2017

Or at least, squeaky clean looking - in case of Impeachment, break glass.

Buckeyeblue

(5,500 posts)
17. Pence has to be kept clean
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:59 AM
Feb 2017

If they both go, there is no right wing legislative agenda. The SC seat, and any others that become vacant, stays open.

But with Pence there is a small chance to move forward.
If I were Pence I'd go back to Indiana on a vacation and stay there as long as possible.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
20. BEWARE they are just trying to scrub him to replaced donnie
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:07 AM
Feb 2017

as has been aptly pointed out all over this thread.

can't be stressed enough, though.

BumRushDaShow

(129,391 posts)
21. Pence was never "in the loop"
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:23 PM
Feb 2017

He was planted there by the teabagger establishment to be the Trojan Horse candidate (and eventually President).

Drumpf was "used" by everyone under the sun (both here in the U.S. & Russia), to fulfill their wildest dreams. Problem is, they have an unstable substance of a man that they are having difficulty handling and all his hangers-on are clashing with all the others...

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
22. Well if Donny is pushed out and Pence knows anything....
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:27 PM
Feb 2017

He will turn on Pence right away. Donny has no love for the Republican Party and he will take them down with him.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,546 posts)
23. Pence is the GOP's plan B, their man on the inside and they're pulling out the stops
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:27 PM
Feb 2017

to portray him as an innocent victim who was out-of-the loop and misled by the sacrificial lamb Flynn.

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