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Part of the reason why Republicans are obstructing any type of independent inquiry is because it will highlight their aggressive efforts to oppose any disclosure of Trump's Russian connections during the campaign. They are in too deep.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/a-party-to-the-russian-connection.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
President Trumps disturbing Russian connections present an acute danger to American national security. According to reports this week, Mr. Trumps team maintained frequent contact with Russian officials, including senior intelligence officers, during the campaign. This led to concerns about possible collusion with one of Americas principal strategic adversaries as it tried to influence the election in Mr. Trumps favor. On Monday, Mr. Trumps national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, was forced to resign after details of his communications with the Russian ambassador emerged.
Republican leaders in Congress now bear the most responsibility for holding the president accountable and protecting the nation. They cant say they didnt see the Russian interference coming. They knew all along.
Early in 2015, senior Republican congressional leaders visited Ukraine and returned full of praise for its fight for independence in spite of Russias efforts to destabilize the country and annex some of its regions. And in June, coincidentally just before Mr. Trump announced his campaign for the Republican nomination, they met with Ukraines prime minister in Washington one of many meetings I attended as a senior aide to the House Republican Conference.
As the presidential race wore on, some of those leaders began to see parallels between Russias disinformation operations in Ukraine and Europe and its activities in the United States. They were alarmed by the Kremlin-backed cable network RT America, which was running stories intended, they judged, to undermine Americans trust in democratic institutions and promote Mr. Trumps candidacy. Deeply unsettled, the leaders discussed these concerns privately on several occasions I witnessed.
dalton99a
(81,510 posts)triron
(22,003 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)But its going to be a clean campaign, not one of those messy ones where they point out how awful the GOP has been.
DK504
(3,847 posts)while they gear up to drive these criminal out of Congress.
They can not back off from this admins crimes, with in one month, has committed.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)kimbutgar
(21,153 posts)To chump, mcConnell, Ryan and prebuis. The traitors accepted Russia's help. There is collusion and there is the evidence of it. It will take a real patriot to expose it.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)kairos12
(12,862 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)to the day of President Obama's 2008 inauguration. I chalked it up to McConnell being a racist sack of shit and on the sub rosa payroll of multiple corporate interests that the Democrats try to regulate for the common good, but maybe he has been a Kremlin tool for a long time. Investigate, follow the money, release the Republicans' private e-mails! Don't let Putin purchase all 3 branches of the United States government!
Botany
(70,508 posts)treason!
because the fix was in. His wife got a lucrative government job out of his keeping his mouth shut, too. He has been i office TOO loNG. He made his millions of $$$ now he should retire, or else be thrown out of office.
otohara
(24,135 posts)party over people/justice/environment/civil rights and all the other shit they hate.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Mitch should resign his seat if this is proven
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)No, be charged with TREASON. This creep has been a thorn in the side of true democracy for years and years. Charge the ugly old phart with treason. Orin Hatch is another grifting crook, keeping the health industries in business along with his son, the lobbyist' Time to clean the swamp of gop leeches.
Mike Nelson
(9,956 posts)...Lock them Up!
2naSalit
(86,629 posts)guilty/complicit.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)There isn't just *one* person affected.
You see one roach, there's likely 100 more.
If your arm gets bitten by a zombie, amputating the arm doesn't protect you from turning.
DFW
(54,387 posts)Putin's quiet message to the Republican leadership:
"You let Trump happen, and I'll help make sure Hillary does not."
The Supreme Court was obviously as much on the Republicans' minds as it was on ours. The ONLY reason for McTurtle to risk denying a moderate like Garland as much as a hearing would have been if he was reasonably certain NINE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION that the next president, all logic to the contrary, would be a Republican.
NOW whom should we be locking up, hmmm?
tomp
(9,512 posts)...it was congressional dereliction of duty. obamas response was as weak as gores after the 2000 coup. he, like gore, should have rallied all patriotic Americans to oppose these actions en masse.
JudyM
(29,250 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,166 posts)Botany
(70,508 posts)Mitch was standing right behind Trump as he signing off on letting
coal companies dump their wastes into the streams and rivers.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)dump Mitch. My dream includes a Lindsey Graham, John McCain full frontal attack. Surely there is someone who wants to save the Republican Party from Russian agents. Sarcasm
erronis
(15,260 posts)They would have left their Good Ole Potty.
My guess is that every critter that ever was, and lived in the warrens of the house and senate; that every critter has some darkness following them around. Even if they went into the political arena with a clean slate (unlikely), they were sullied by their handlers (DNC/RNC/USSR/$$$).
The last time I saw this study, they were ranked below used-car salespersons and carnival barkers (no disrespect meant to either of those fine occupations!!!
We are so attuned to hearing even some positive comment from one of the repuglicans that we'll give them a break on several more absolutely stupid statements or votes. Every now and then Graham and McCain say some words that make sense. 10%? Mostly they vote with their inconscious and their need for $$$ and power.
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)The country needs real investigations. And those are not going to happen.
mikelewis
(4,079 posts)Opportunism in spite of the remote possibility 45 was a Manchurian Candidate sure but no one could have guessed this would be the outcome. The mainstream Republican party was hijacked and these guys had no choice but to go along... whatever gains they may have once thought they would get are dashing on orange furry rocks... they'll come around.
DinahMoeHum
(21,789 posts)As a Democrat who loved to have a good time while fighting the bad guys (and he was a Naval Academy grad), he'd be absolutely sickened over the way Trump, his staff, and the GOP are playing kissy-kissy with the likes of Putin and the Russian oligharchs.
For further inspiration, watch Charlie Wilson's War on DVD or streaming.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)The movie made it clear the Wilson used his budgetary influence to divert tax payer dollars to the Taliban. He also lived a lavish life of drugs and women, according to the movie. Not my role model and rogue under the table deals are part of the problem, imo.
DinahMoeHum
(21,789 posts)It's called "doing the right thing for the wrong reasons". Frankly, I have no issue with it.
benld74
(9,904 posts)SUpposedly Russia backed
Alot of similar stories between what DT states, has said etc is on the site.
Alot of backing of what DT has done, is doing, what ICE is doing
Eerily spooky
kiranerys
(54 posts)Not just Russia backed. Kind of like the BBC, except that Russia is an autocracy that uses RT for propaganda purposes.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)blm
(113,061 posts)over country.
Heck - they betrayed their own party and its principles to claim power.
Marcuse
(7,485 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)I believe turtleman is up to his beady little eyes in this mess. HE HAS MANY THINGS TO HIDE!
jannyd65
(22 posts)Don't forget, I think Ryan and Chaffetz might also be in cahoots or have some knowledge of what's going on too. As I said in another post, it was VERY naive of the republicans to not think that they were not hacked. They probably have more incriminating emails, data, etc. than the DNC.
Trump has a vendetta against the world, I know, but I believe he especially is angry at the republicans and it is his mission to bring them down along with him. I think there is video of him saying that he would not get in a foxhole with a republican-they can't be trusted. Now he has them kissing his ring....
Raster
(20,998 posts)...I think Ryan *might be* smart enough to curb his meglomania and fly under the sedition radar. Chaffetz?... NOPE!, he's probably into the shit as much --or more-- than Comrade McTurtle.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)That may, indeed, be your belief, but the facts do not support this claim.
Do you have a source for this?
JDC
(10,127 posts)Retrograde
(10,136 posts)Not one of the big ones, where she'd get a lot of national and maybe even televised scrutiny, but Transportation, where she can be slotted in with little fuss or attention. So McConnell has his own mole in Trump's cabinet.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)I have no doubt he knew what was going on with Putin.
Follow the money.
What is his cut?
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Old children's song:
"You can't make a turtle come out,
You can't make a turtle come out.
You can knock on his door
but you can't ring a bell
and you can't make a turtle come out, come out,
You can't make a turtle come out."
kentuck
(111,097 posts)They should not be permitted to investigate because they are part of the investigation. There should be an independent investigation.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Make this a national election by not only running against Trump, but his enablers as well.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,120 posts)I bet it is.
dhill926
(16,339 posts)when the repubs control the entire government?
bdamomma
(63,849 posts)McConnell and his cabal knew and they are all traitors. The wheels of justice are grinding.......hope they move quicker.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...the investigation into Russian election interference was made public. Mitch McConnell is part of the cover-up.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/10/world-war-iii-democrats-and-america-vs-trump-and-russia.html
Good luck getting Republicans to agree on anything here. Mitch McConnell? Please. Hes the one who said, at a hush-hush meeting back in September where administration officials urged that bipartisan group of 12 legislators go public with concerns about Russian interference in the election, that he would not participate and that if Democrats did so, he would tell the American people this was just partisan politics.
Think that through. McConnell, according to the Post story, showed no concern about the truth of the allegations. And bear this nugget in mind: This was not Barack Obama trying to persuade him to join in this bipartisan effort. This was Lisa Monaco, the presidents counterterrorism adviser; and Jeh Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security secretary; and FBI Director James Comey. McConnell told Comey, in essence, to go take a jump in the lake. McConnell was interested only in party, not at all in country. Thats not treason, but it sure isnt patriotism.
This obviously cries out for hearings and an investigation, or a few of them. If we lived in a different universe, wed ideally have a bipartisan investigation by Congress that was honest and serious and was able to be finished or at least to reach decent conclusions before the Electoral College votes on December 19.
But that will not happen. Republicans will make the Democrats do all the lifting here and then will cry that theyre being partisan and its just sour grapes. (Republican Senator John Cornyn tweeted, All this 'news' of Russian hacking: it has been going on for years. Serious, but hardly news." But this is a genuine crisis. The guy who got 2.8 million fewer votes to begin with, and won because he took three states by less than 1 percent may have made it over the finish line, limping as he was, with a push from Vladimir Putin.
red dog 1
(27,804 posts)However, these criminal activities won't be investigated by an independent commission, because this time, the criminals control both houses of Congress.
K&R, thanks for posting this.
volstork
(5,401 posts)Exactly this!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)dchill
(38,497 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There's no statute of limitations on this, I hope, so that an investigation can be done later, when Dems have more power. Although I suspect much of the evidence will disappear. Trump is in the process of purging the intel agencies and placing his mini-dictator in there, to root out those Trump doesn't want in there.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Stop hinting that you know more stuff from meetings etc
Just take the plunge and spill the beans.
What could possibly be more important?
You putting your career ahead of your country?