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Cattledog

(5,915 posts) Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:14 PM Feb 2017

Trump memo proposes deploying 100,000 National Guard troops to round up immigrants

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/02/17/trump-admin-considers-mobilizing-100000-national-guard-troops-round-unauthorized-immigrants

The Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.
The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana.
Four states that border on Mexico are included in the proposal — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but it also encompasses seven states contiguous to those four — Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.

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Trump memo proposes deploying 100,000 National Guard troops to round up immigrants (Original Post) Cattledog Feb 2017 OP

I think it will happen this weekend and in Chicago also, to Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #1

I wonder if the national guardsmen will refuse being called up for this task? kimbutgar Feb 2017 #2

Wouldn't the Posse Comitatus Act prevent that? procon Feb 2017 #3

The Posse what? Haven't you heard of John Warner? jmg257 Feb 2017 #6

His clan will start walking this back in 4..3..2..1.. louis-t Feb 2017 #4

Betting it happens Monday when there are protests planned rainbow4321 Feb 2017 #5

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)

1. I think it will happen this weekend and in Chicago also, to

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:16 PM

Feb 2017

do as much harm to Obama fans as possible.

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)

2. I wonder if the national guardsmen will refuse being called up for this task?

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:20 PM

Feb 2017

They are there for national emergency. Thus is no emergency but the ravings of an insane man.

procon

(15,805 posts)

3. Wouldn't the Posse Comitatus Act prevent that?

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:38 PM

Feb 2017

It limits the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. Bush deployed Guard units, but they could not be directly involved in any law enforcement activities, that still had to be done by the Border Patrol.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

6. The Posse what? Haven't you heard of John Warner?

Reply to procon (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:50 PM

Feb 2017

10 U.S. Code § 332 - Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

10 U.S. Code § 333 - Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006)

louis-t

(23,295 posts)

4. His clan will start walking this back in 4..3..2..1..

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:39 PM

Feb 2017

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)

5. Betting it happens Monday when there are protests planned

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:36 PM

Feb 2017

The Not My President rallies/marches are supposed to happen Monday on Presidents' Day. I could see them attacking those groups knowing that there will be a concentration of minorities there...they are trying to scare the crowds/public from attending, no doubt.

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