My 2 cents

I have noticed an uptick in links from questionable sources, though.

It's presented for you to play. I don't (or rarely do).

better...ne?

I was just making the point that the connection to the video is passive and if I don't click on it, it doesn't do anything. But I do appreciate your attention. Thanks!

Why is there a problem????????

see it that way because here and there they are "truthful"...of course don't expect that from the Fox hacks..and they do have a lot of hacks employed over there. The Hacks drown out any serious news coverage and that's why they have this hack reputation...and it's well deserved.

or watch.

But as for them being here - if posting or watching is what floats people's boats, go for it!

Because the headline was that one of their anchors reported on the lie-filled press conference, without spinning it into applause for Dolt45.

Something like that...I remember being surprised that there was a shred of honesty on Fux.

Otherwise, I'm not noticing anything being slipped other than to point out their phony garbage.

Presently on the main page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017425059

Fake and biased (unsaid--against the "real", "fair" outlets).

I didn't have a problem with Wallace's comments.

But that just now was about the most time I've ever spent watching Fux! I do know that propaganda media includes truthful commentary occasionally in order to obsfucate their actual trend.

I could do without Fox News being broadcast at every doctor's office, restaurant, bar, generic waiting room and any other place with a tv, like my grocery store.

but the question is why is it so important it must be allowed here.

When I've mentioned this in the past, people have (sincerely and in good faith) suggested that I ask the manager to change the station.

I live in a Trump-voting confederate-flag-toting rural PA county, where Fox News is accepted as gospel truth. Ain't no way a business is going to change the channel simply because some crybaby Liberal Snowflake like me needs a safe space.

Sorry to hear that.

all the viewers brains would turn into mush...well more Mushyier than before! XD

I've actually seen some links that portray some Faux Nooze commentators criticizing Trump.

showing what to avoid and what not to avoid. Most of my links and news come from Asian sources. I love international news since Local and National news seems more contrived.

... this site was being TOTALLY overrun by RT videos for a period of time.

It's unclear to me if those people who were previously posting them just decided to stop (voluntarily) or of there was some new rule that prohibited RT videos from being used.

is on RT...I would like to see him go elsewhere but there isn't really a decent liberal network any more,. not like Air America, I loved that. If I am not mistaken, Al Franklin, Rachel Maddow and Thom Hartmann were all there at some point.

alert on it.

I'm not very fond of sticking my fingers in my ears and going "la-la-la-la I can't hear you" just because I see a news source I don't often agree with. If the content is a right wing talking point (without some poster-added explanation of why it is posted here), I'll alert on it.

and we already know there are some who are on Juries who may vote the other way because they have an agenda here, to turn people to the Dark side..

If they don't overturn the jury, then perhaps you have to ponder whether you're just too sensitive to having your world view disrupted.

(Note: The latter comment about sensitivity is NOT applicable to trash talk about minorities. On that, as far as I'm concerned, appeals ought to go to a jury of the targeted group - because, especially without being able to explain what it is I'm seeing it is pretty clear that the trasn-talk in coded words just isn't apparent to many good-hearted progressives who aren't part of the targeted group - AND the trash-talk is directed at people (many of whom are members here).) I give a lot more leeway to ideas than I do to attacks on identified groups.)

many times a person, especially if he or she is a very low count person, will disappear for being a troll, which is good. We need that kind of "cleanup in aisle 6" kinda thing.

directed at groups of people, juries get it right.

IMHO there are too many people who want to put blinders on to protect themselves from the significant variation in political thought among the left of center coalition. I've been called to quite a few juries for right wing talking points when the point being asserted wasn't even close.

We need to be exposed to the entire range of political thought (within the left-of-center perspective). (To be politically healthy, se actually do need to be exposed to the entire spectrum - but I'm fine with keeping the right wing thought out of this particular space.)

Should be that its a safe haven for Democrats who can speak their minds, without people coming back with right wing talking points. Right now on the internet there are many places where if you say something, you will be trolled by a dozen Right wingers, including now a days Russian Trolls who will try to beat you to death with the stuff they are slinging. I Love how DU protects me from all the extreme Right wing crap, from people like Alex Jones and his followers. I don't need to be hit over the head over and over about some so called Red Flag event, that was placed over a real multiple shooting. Who WANTS THAT ANYWAY?

I rarely click on videos because they play so slowly for me. I wish I could see rug's animal videos, but they are like slo-mo for me.

Somehow I never manage to accidentally change to that channel. I don't watch it to find out what the other side is saying. I don't know the hosts/show names etc except for what I see here at DU. But there are clearly many experts on everything Fox News here at DU.

them to be a bit more anti-Trump? I've been seeing a lot of clips on various sites. Fox is also being threatened by the fascists.....

Anti Trump. Who needs Fox News to tell us?

Ignorance is not bliss. I think we should be aware of what is going on in the opposition. We don't need to isolate ourselves.

If someone doesn't like it then they don't have to play it.

out. Let's hope that whoever is in charge there now will allow more criticism because we need to get to the few Fox watchers who might be reachable. If Fox starts to turn against Trump he could be screwed.

I don't have cable (never did) so this is the only way I can see how crazy they are. Do we want to put ourselves into the same kind of bubble as the FOX viewers ?

influence a Democrat or Liberal to slide to the "dark side". Its bad enough many of those idiots voted for Trump, do we have to have it here influencing people? I hope we have enough sense to call it BULLSHIT Mountain (Like Jon Stewart did).

One of the greatest longstanding concerns here is that the DU becomes an echo chamber. While nobody wants rogue accounts popping up and expressing sympathy for the crap spewed by Fox, Breitbart and Infowars, it's best that we at least remain aware of the spin they're attempting to put on events (and feel free to mock, disparage, and piss all over their hate-filled rants).

No love for those twits, but I also don't want to bury my head in the sand.

We have to remember Jon Stewart called it "BULLSHIT MOUNTAIN" and YES, IT SHOULD be viewed as much!

On edit: To clarify what I mean by supporting evidence: using it to support/document direct quotes pertaining to Republican policy/positions.

They are way more candid in their opinions with a network they feel is cozy to them, and this creates a two-edged blade which can be useful to direct our own message...

To utilize it as a straight source of news, no thanks!

This thread just went up a few minutes ago. I think it's of value. Context is everything!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017425086

Our favorite sources cannot, then I am fine with it. As long as it exposes trumplestiltskin, I'm fine.

The President's Cheer Leader, but even they don't like him, and aren't cheering him on like they did for George W. Bush... stuff has changed there, yet.... they are still, again.. "BULLSHIT MOUNTAIN."

I do the same with Politico. I won't condemn others if they don't do as I do.

.... is using, but maybe a trigger warning for those videos?

How do you determine if something is a Trigger warning? I would like to know

especially if you know its that. Thanks.

The very few Fox News videos I have seen were presented with appropriate context to make good points.

I would rather see a Fox News video presented here to make a useful and thoughtful point than some of the articles dragged over here from HuffPo and other places for the purpose of refighting the primaries, stirring old tensions or just general divisiveness.

If it's some right wing crap they should have commentery to go with it.

Here is an example of pure stupidity, and then show a video. As people said, context is important, its just, I don't want people turning to the "DARKSIDE" because of exposure. We all know that in many areas around the country, all they have is Rush Limbaugh on the radio and Fox News on the TV. Too much of that, and people change.

There was that story of the woman, whose father went from a liberal to a hard core Rightwinger by being exposed to Fox News over the years. I don't know how its done, but its worse than the JEDI MIND TRICK... seriously!!

we need to see the dysfunction

anyone who fall into that trap with sympathizing with the cheeto is NO liberal

Because I really don't think we need the Fox News stuff unless its to show how fucked up People are on that side of the Aisle. I hate Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Dennis Miller, Karl Rove, Ben Stein, Greta Van Susteren and a bunch of others. Mostly when they open their mouths, crap comes out..

Jon Stewart said it best, calling it BULLSHIT MOUNTAIN!

Should be respected, and I appreciate the links and info. Most is US here, including myself, don't and wouldn't read the fascist propaganda media options, but sometimes it helps to know what they're spewing. whether to show us their craziness so we can argue against and prove them wrong, or get inspired to fight their madness, I don't mind the links. I tend to ignore them anyway, but appreciate those who can spy in that arena.

And some LONG term, high count trolls.

its just a matter of time ne?

probably because I have all the asshole trolls who post them on IGNORE