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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts) Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:31 PM Feb 2017

Maybe it's better to eliminate false hope Trump will be removed as president?

Unless something so illegal and so horrific comes to light that even 1/2 Republicans can't get past ??

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But the cleanest and quickest way to remove a president involves Section 4 of the 25th Amendment and has never been attempted. It provides that the cabinet can, by a simple majority vote, strip the president of his powers and immediately hand power to the vice president. The catch is that the ousted president can object, and in that case Congress must approve the ouster by a two-thirds vote in each chamber, or the president regains office.

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The better known route is impeachment. But for now it’s hard to imagine a majority of the House voting to impeach, and even less conceivable that two-thirds of the Senate would vote to convict so that Trump would be removed. Moreover, impeachment and trial in the Senate would drag on for months, paralyzing America and leaving Trump in office with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

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“The only incentive for Republicans to act — with or without the cabinet — is the same incentive Republicans had in 1974 to insist on Nixon’s resignation,” Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia told me. “The incentive is survival.”

Trump does have one weakness, and it’s parallel to Nixon’s. Republicans in Congress were willing to oust Nixon partly because they vastly preferred his vice president, Gerald Ford — just as congressional Republicans prefer Mike Pence today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/18/opinion/sunday/how-can-we-get-rid-of-trump.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

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Maybe it's better to eliminate false hope Trump will be removed as president? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 OP

I plan to be a birdwatcher over the next 4 years. In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #1

Is that one of those cool named shots? :) Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #4

healthier not to remain fixated on it. ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #2

Ok :) So we can maybe convince a small handful to stand up against him. Goal 1/2 of them ! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #6

I'm gonna go with Republican precedent. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #3

Ha. Now that's even a bigger dream to wish for - that Trump would ever resign. Hmmm.. or Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #5

The petty petulant man-baby has been in office under a month. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #7

let's bet. unfortunately think he will Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #8

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)

1. I plan to be a birdwatcher over the next 4 years.

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:33 PM

Feb 2017

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

4. Is that one of those cool named shots? :)

Reply to In_The_Wind (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:50 PM

Feb 2017

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)

2. healthier not to remain fixated on it.

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:36 PM

Feb 2017

Become a Congress watcher instead.

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

6. Ok :) So we can maybe convince a small handful to stand up against him. Goal 1/2 of them !

Reply to ginnyinWI (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:55 PM

Feb 2017

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

3. I'm gonna go with Republican precedent.

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:37 PM

Feb 2017

Resign in disgrace while salvaging international branding income.

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

5. Ha. Now that's even a bigger dream to wish for - that Trump would ever resign. Hmmm.. or

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:54 PM

Feb 2017

maybe he would - if he knew they would oust him. But, how could he ever save his brand? How many of the 38% who like him can afford his hotels or country club entry fees? Maybe Ivanka could save the whole family by starting a Walmart line.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

7. The petty petulant man-baby has been in office under a month.

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:03 PM

Feb 2017

It is only going to get worse when you pick the enemies he has!

Congressional Republicans are investigating him and his campaign/administration! In the first month!!!

Resignation is the equivalency of settling out of court.

He will resign.

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

8. let's bet. unfortunately think he will

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:16 AM

Feb 2017

Limp through. Like he said..he could shoot people on 5th ave and nothing would happen. Its like an unstoppable monster in a movie. 16 repukes tried. And not even Jeb with all his money and family power could even make a dent.

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