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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/02/23/pope-francis-praises-the-torah-and-suggests-its-better-to-be-an-atheist-than-a-bad-catholic/?utm_term=.05c4b7463329
[font size=5]Pope Francis praises the Torah, and suggests its better to be an atheist than a bad Catholic[/font]
.... Many of these hypocrites, Francis implied, according to the Vaticans text of his homily, are Catholics who act rigorously in their ritual observance but dont apply the religions values to their lives. A totally double life: I am very Catholic, I always go to Mass, I belong to this association and that one; but my life is not Christian, I dont pay my workers a just wage, I exploit people, I am dirty in my business, I launder money
A double life. And so many Christians are like this, and these people scandalize others.
He then quoted a sentiment that he said he has heard expressed repeatedly: But to be a Catholic like that, its better to be an atheist.
Francis has surprised Catholics before with his warmth toward atheists. He remarked soon after becoming pope that even atheists can go to heaven thanks to the redemption of Jesus. He granted an interview to an atheist journalist, and told the reporter that efforts to convert people to Christianity are solemn nonsense and each person must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them.
He has also been friendly toward Jews, particularly through his longtime friend, Argentine Rabbi Abraham Skorka. On Thursday, Skorka led a group of rabbis to the Vatican, where they gave Francis a new edition of the Torah.
Looking at the text of the five books of Moses, the most holy books for Jews as well as a key part of the Christian Old Testament, Francis called the Torah the Lords gift, his revelation, his word, according to the Vaticans text of his remarks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/12/07/pope-francis-compares-media-who-spread-fake-news-to-people-who-are-excited-by-feces/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.8e44077525a6
[font size=5]Pope Francis compares media that spread fake news to people who are excited by feces[/font]
.... ...Francis criticized media outlets that look only for negative stories and those that smear peoples reputations, but reserved the harshest criticism for those who report untruths. Spreading incorrect information, Francis reportedly said, is probably the biggest damage a news organization can cause.
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And just who does the Pope think he is to judge Catholics?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)you cant be a christian if you dont help poor people, that was too much for the deplorables
The conservatives in the Vatican must be losing their minds. lol
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)He's a great spiritual leader, recognizing that following God's word means treating others as you wish to be treated, no matter what your belief system is.
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)Love this guy. As someone raised in Holy Mother Church, I find this Pope inspiring. No, he isn't as liberal as I would like but he is to the core, a man of stunning faith and love. That being the case, he is the enemy of those for whom rules are more important than outreach and genuine compassion.
May Pope Francis live long and well, irritating as many false, shallow Christians as possible.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Instead of what the headline says he said, he actually said:
But to be a Catholic like that, its better to be an atheist.
Atheists are still going to hell. He never said it was good, or OK, or anything positive to be an atheist. Just that bad Catholics are no better than atheists.
Fuck him.
UTUSN
(70,740 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)You might as well be an atheist. Because Catholics know better. They know the truth about Jesus and God. They should be acting better. You're better off being an atheist. Yeah, thanks, Frank.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Gotta love the secularsplainers and other apologists who whitewash this statement failing to see the obvious insult. Fuck the Poop is right!
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)I am amazed at how much love this pope gets on DU. He is overtly anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-women, anti-abortion, and a whole list of other things that would get him banned from DU, but all he has to say is this well crafted insult at atheists and the gushing begins.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)I was raised Catholic --- catachism, altar boy duty......the whole deal. I came out as an atheist as a sophomore in high school. So when the Poop raises my neck hairs, he really raises them!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Bush made a couple of decisions and statements I liked. Bush can still go fuck himself.
This also seems to be just another swipe at atheists. Not sure why that is a good thing.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)and I'm as anti-religious as any person to ever walk this earth
Doreen
(11,686 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)rightwing neighbor when I first said long ago that I like this Pope. Of course he doesn't just because the Pope is Catholic and the other, (neighbor,) is right wing baptist
Me being Atheist I can like who ever I want
Doreen
(11,686 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)He thinks gays can be fixed, he thinks abortion is murder and on and on. Trouble is he'll fuck you in a heart beat and I'm not talking sex either.