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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone here actually consider tRump to be "president?"
Because I certainly do not.
I look at him and the word "president" doesn't come to mind. Asshole, shithead and dumb fuck come to mind.
Look, I didn't much like Nixon or Reagan or either Bush. But when I looked at them, I saw them as presidents. Bad presidents on the wrong side of history for the most part, but presidents.
Don't see that with tRump, any more than I would see a carnival barker standing in an OR as a surgeon. Any more than I would see a 5-year-old named dean of a university as a dean.
TRump is a usurper in the worst sense of the word.
yuiyoshida
(41,864 posts)Presidential....
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I have NEVER called him a president.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Nixon was a crook.
Bush was a dry alcoholic.
Trump is a lunatic.
What pathetic choices.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)I was 6 when he was elected.
Tough act to follow.
Takket
(21,634 posts)and only because Chaffitz is too cowardly to do his job.
by any rational analysis drumpf
1. doesn't deserve it
2. didn't earn it
3. disgraces the office with ever second he holds it
samnsara
(17,640 posts)..hes a bench warmer gone rogue. And if the GOP cant get ahold of him soon they will lose control of him completely!
BigMin28
(1,180 posts)Always be an interloping nut job to me.
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)and I assume the a prerequisite for the job of POTUS.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Since his imminent criminal sentence will be based on aligning with a foreign country to throw our national election.
Semantics, I know.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)izzybella
(236 posts)As scary as it is, I hope the Republicans let him destroy everything. If we survive, their party will be toast.
mindem
(1,580 posts)Whatever he is, I can't see how the country can survive four years drumph and total repuke rule. The country will be ripped to shreds.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,053 posts)I never saw Reagan or Bush as presidents either.
brooklynite
(94,745 posts)As much as I may loathe him, this isn't about him; it's about the United States of America. And Trump is the President. He has the power and authority of the Presidency and the clear inclination to use them. Ignoring that is unrealistic.
moriah
(8,311 posts)But in no way do I consider him "Presidential".
leftstreet
(36,116 posts)It sounds he like and his people think of him that way, too
Weird statements like 'you finally have a President' etc
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)AND dictator
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)a mobster more like it
jmg257
(11,996 posts)invested in him.
4 years is a long time.
doc03
(35,382 posts)monmouth4
(9,710 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)If that makes sense.
He's called president. Other world leaders call him president. Congress calls him president. The press usually calls him president, though if you take notice, a lot of time they call him Mr Trump or simply Trump.
But he's still not a president to me.
If any of that makes sense.
UTUSN
(70,744 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)He's president, which makes him my pres.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)to have congress exempt him from the roster of presidents. After all this has passed, let's make whoever comes after tRump the 45th president.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)which is mostly black voters, 70,000 of them do NOT show up and vote but leave prez spot blank.
What I know is in FL double the usual number dont do the same.
The election was itself stolen in those rust belt states and while crosscheck alone accounts for a stolen election, there was more to it than that.
What I know is the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. What I know is the first Reagan election was stolen via treason by Reagan, well documented now, as was Nixon in his first election, also well documented treason.
Republicans cant win national elections, there arent enough of them. It is that simple.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,751 posts)Wish he'd stop intruding on my mind by doing stupidly outrageous things.
Kilgore
(1,733 posts)And we went for Obama twice.
jack69
(163 posts)those that voted for trump and those that didn't vote. Need massive reeducation program for both.
wiggs
(7,819 posts)outright lying to voters. Lies about himself, about other candidates, about facts, about history, etc.....
...in my view that's fraud. At the very least it's not democracy. The basis of democracy is a well informed public and he and the gop worked hard to undermine that.
On top of it all, there's voter suppression, gerrymandering, media consolidation, citizens united, etc. All gop tactics. When we elect a gop candidate, much of the time it doesn't have much to do with democracy.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)To think Gen. Eisenhower fought a war only to see his enemy eventually win 70 years later. If Robert Ludlum were alive he'd write a novel about it. Maybe he already did - The Scarlatti Inheritance. And to cnn, Ike would be to the left of Bernie!
jimjc
(69 posts)All I see is a con man, every word he says is a con. His whole
family are cons. Blumberg said on TV "he knows a con when
he sees it and trump's a con man running a con.
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Barack is still my President in spirit.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)No, he is not the US president.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)PERIOD! (in the words of Sean Spicer)