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Jimbo101

(776 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:23 PM Mar 2017

Legal experts think Jeff Sessions is in a whole mess of trouble

Vox

During his confirmation hearing, Attorney General Jeff Sessions testified, under oath, that “I did not have communications with the Russians.” We now know, thanks to the Washington Post, that this is false: Sessions met with the Russian ambassador to the US twice in the past year, when he was serving as both a Trump adviser and a US senator.

The million-dollar questions: Did Sessions break the law? And, if so, could he lose his job — or even be charged with perjury like someone who lied in court? To find out, we reached out to several legal experts who study relevant topics. The general sense was that if Sessions didn’t commit outright perjury, he came uncomfortably close.

“I think a jury presented with evidence that he did have meetings with the Russians during the relevant time period could conclude that he perjured himself in front of the Senate committee,” Stuart Green, a law professor at Rutgers who studies the law of lying, wrote via email.

It’s very unlikely that Sessions will be prosecuted under laws criminalizing perjury, owing both to laws protecting sitting Congress members (which he was at the time of testimony) and due to the difficulty of proving a lie. But there already have been consequences for him: on Thursday afternoon, Sessions announced that he would be recusing himself from any future investigations into the Trump campaign and Russia. That might just be the beginning: a special prosecutor could be appointed, or, even worse, the Senate could begin something called “contempt of Congress” proceedings.

And the consequences could extend beyond Sessions — potentially landing any Trump administration officials who helped him prepare his testimony in legal trouble.
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Legal experts think Jeff Sessions is in a whole mess of trouble (Original Post) Jimbo101 Mar 2017 OP
GOOD! I hope it's a shitload that buries him!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #1
Oh, I do hope so. 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #2
His press conference didn't help since he even admitted discussing Ukraine with Kislya wishstar Mar 2017 #3
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #4
He needs to be prosecuted. Period. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #5
Lock him up! KingBob Mar 2017 #6
yes Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #7
Re: He answered a question that wasn't asked nycbos Mar 2017 #9
He created this himself. nycbos Mar 2017 #8
He'll be fine. Nothing will happen. Nt jmg257 Mar 2017 #10
He'll be fine, and the rest of America will be in hell mdbl Mar 2017 #18
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #11
I'm seeing some say he probably didn't commit perjury ailsagirl Mar 2017 #12
Sessions is safe. dalton99a Mar 2017 #13
If the trouble has to come at the hands of the Republicans, I won't hold my breath Blaukraut Mar 2017 #14
It's a very narrow recusal... zentrum Mar 2017 #15
Looks like Chris Christie narrowly escaped with his good name intact. joet67 Mar 2017 #16
A column in the Post today explained why Sessions may never be charged with perjury. Nitram Mar 2017 #17
Since he didn't lie about sex --yet, it's ok. mdbl Mar 2017 #19

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
3. His press conference didn't help since he even admitted discussing Ukraine with Kislya
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:55 PM
Mar 2017

Makes no sense that he would have forgotten the meetings in his testimony and then never remembered the meetings later on to amend his testimony for accuracy, but now that he got exposed, he remembers that the meeting was gossipy and Ukraine came up but exact details he can't recall but it wasn't about Trump campaign even though one meeting was at the Repub convention.For the head lawyer of all lawyers in US, he is a mess of deliberate misinformation.

KingBob

(150 posts)
6. Lock him up!
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:46 AM
Mar 2017

He answered a question that wasn't asked. He answered that he didn't talk to the Russians. Even if he was talking about "in the course of the campaign," he went to Cleveland not as a senator, but as a campaign member. He used campaign money in Cleveland, not Senate money.

Lock him up!

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
9. Re: He answered a question that wasn't asked
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:17 PM
Mar 2017

That's what I find the most incredible thing about this.

I have several friends who are lawyers and they always say "you never answered any more then what was asked"


My uncle gave me an example. In this type of situation for someone the correct answer to "Do you know what time it is?" is "yes" not "6:17"

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
8. He created this himself.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:12 PM
Mar 2017

All he had to do is say. "Yes i met with the ambassador on these occasions and this is what we discussed"


Now we have a new level of intrigue.

dalton99a

(81,526 posts)
13. Sessions is safe.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:43 PM
Mar 2017

Barring an extraordinary development, I'm afraid the GOP will not do anything to him, and there will not be a special prosecutor.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
14. If the trouble has to come at the hands of the Republicans, I won't hold my breath
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:42 AM
Mar 2017

It's frankly amazing how hypocritical they are. As long as they can cram their agenda through, they're perfectly fine with the Trump administration and its cabinet being Russian puppets. If Hillary were president, I can guarantee that we'd already be up to our eyeballs in investigations for all sorts of imaginary things.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. It's a very narrow recusal...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:26 AM
Mar 2017

....as I understand it.

He's still in on lots of investigations that need to take place.

Such as the connections between 45 and Putin---over and above their effect on the elections. For instance, Russian 'garch money being given to 45 for bankruptcies, or for real estate that is essentially laundered money---all that is still under Sessions. So those investigations will probably not happen.

joet67

(624 posts)
16. Looks like Chris Christie narrowly escaped with his good name intact.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:45 AM
Mar 2017
(I hope his career goes off the side of a bridge)

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
17. A column in the Post today explained why Sessions may never be charged with perjury.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:57 PM
Mar 2017

It is a very specific charge, and depends on the question asked and the intent of the answer.

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