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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:17 PM Mar 2017

Native American Student Says She Was Removed From Class After Refusing Pledge of Allegiance

Native American Student Cierra Fields Says She Was Removed From Class After Refusing Pledge of Allegiance

Champion for Change Cierra Fields, a student at Fort Gibson High, was also told to take alternate online course

Vincent Schilling • March 3, 2017

Cierra Fields, a Fort Gibson high school student and member of the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma, says she was removed from her classroom on Tuesday morning, February 28 after refusing to stand for or say the pledge of allegiance. Fields, a Champion for Change, anti-rape advocate and correspondent for ICMN, says soon after she said she would not participate, she received a verbal lashing from her teacher.

“After I said I was not going to participate, my teacher raised her voice and said she refused to educate ungodly and unpatriotic students. She was angry and told me that I needed to take an online course to better understand why I needed to participate,” said Fields.

“After I refused to pledge to the flag, my teacher removed me from class by taking me into the hallway in direct view of some of the students. My teacher questioned me and screamed at me about how her father missed a year of her life in Vietnam and how her husband was an Afghanistan war veteran,” Fields said.

Fields also said the teacher questioned Cierra’s potential disrespect toward her own father’s military service, a 10-year U.S. Army veteran.

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Native American Student Says She Was Removed From Class After Refusing Pledge of Allegiance (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Will be interesting to see where this goes. OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #1
This woman needs to not teach any more. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #2
I would bet this teacher is one of the, "our country was founded on Christianity" Idiots. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #7
The teacher needs to understand that over 70 years PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #3
Fire the unpatriotic piece of shit "teacher" Dem2 Mar 2017 #4
teacher, narrow minded heaven05 Mar 2017 #5
As a Cherokee myself, I will be following this story close. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #6
My Iraq War Veteran Husband AwakeAtLast Mar 2017 #8
The teacher needs to learn the Constitution and be fired or reassigned (if tenured)... WePurrsevere Mar 2017 #9
If true, the teacher should be gone. malthaussen Mar 2017 #10
I always pledged allegiance to the 'United States of Bulgaria'. byronius Mar 2017 #11
Well, see, she's not a "real" American. MineralMan Mar 2017 #12
This is in Okla where "Native America" is on the car tags bigbrother05 Mar 2017 #15
Fire the teacher Solly Mack Mar 2017 #13
This hysterical POS teacher MontanaMama Mar 2017 #14
during the height of viet nam me and three other high school students did the same in homeroom dembotoz Mar 2017 #16
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
2. This woman needs to not teach any more.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:25 PM
Mar 2017

Sadly, there are too many teachers that think they can make kids stand for the Pledge. I've had this discussion a lot of times. Luckily, the people I have talked to at faculty meetings were more reasonable than this woman and understood the law after it was explained to them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
3. The teacher needs to understand that over 70 years
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:28 PM
Mar 2017

ago the Supreme Court ruled that students could not be forced to say the Pledge.

And she ought to read up on the fourteen defining characteristics of fascism. Number one is the constant use of patriotic symbols, mottos, slogans, songs, and other paraphernalia.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
4. Fire the unpatriotic piece of shit "teacher"
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:30 PM
Mar 2017

She wants to teach hate and intolerance (anti-patriotism), she can do that at home.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. teacher, narrow minded
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:37 PM
Mar 2017

RW ore than likely virulently racist idiot, student, hero of first degree and had no reason to stand up and pledge to a country that committed genocide against the First-american peoples. Hope some justice comes her way soon for her choice to stand up for what's right. Hell if I was a student today I would not stand on pledge and and I turn my back or take a knee with the playing of national anthem.

AwakeAtLast

(14,132 posts)
8. My Iraq War Veteran Husband
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

would have defended the student's right to free speech.

There have been many nutjobs who try to bait him into following their crap. He shuts them up quick.

Just like when he talks about the Confederate Flag being a traitor's flag.....

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. The teacher needs to learn the Constitution and be fired or reassigned (if tenured)...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

The student needs to contact the ACLU.

SCOTUS already decided years ago that students can't be coerced or forced to say the pledge. Occasionally people need to be reminded that freedom of speech includes the freedom not to speak.

Saying the pledge doesn't mean you're a patriot any more than saying you're a christian means you actually are one or saying you're Harvey makes you a giant pooka.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
10. If true, the teacher should be gone.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

First, because she is violating her student's rights. Second, because no teacher should lose her temper to such an extent with a student. At least she didn't strike her.

-- Mal

byronius

(7,395 posts)
11. I always pledged allegiance to the 'United States of Bulgaria'.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:01 PM
Mar 2017

I'm probably more patriotic than most because of my time in Saudi fighting British kids over who won the Revolutionary War, but I do not like forced patriotism at all.

Kind of like forced religion. Demeans the religion.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
12. Well, see, she's not a "real" American.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:06 PM
Mar 2017

She's one of those "native" Americans, you know, the ones the teacher thought were all killed off by European immigrants to North America a long, long time ago. Those "native" Americans who think they have any rights at all in this country. That teacher sure showed her student how much respect she has for the original Americans.

I suspect that teacher is about to learn a new lesson of her own. And what she learns will be at the cost of her teaching job. What a surprise she'll have!

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
15. This is in Okla where "Native America" is on the car tags
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:26 PM
Mar 2017

Am sure the teacher feels she's disciplining a "mouthy" teen. This won't turn out well for any involved, but the teacher is going to be a hero to a large portion of the locals even after she loses on appeal (assuming the local SB tries to back or minimize her act).



eta: Read the link, the principal is brushing it off (big surprise), am sure more will come if the teacher refuses to apologize

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
16. during the height of viet nam me and three other high school students did the same in homeroom
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:54 PM
Mar 2017

by coincidence we all sat together in the corner of the classroom...a function more of alphabetical order more than seating choice.
we called ourselves the south east corner minority of homeroom 43.....

the homeroom teacher didn't make a big deal. never spotted any of us out...never reflected anything by making a fuss.

he was an older teacher who was head of the industrial arts program at the school.


although he must be like a brazillion years old now and sadly dead for some time.....thank you Mr Eberhardt.....

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