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This enrages me and should enrage every human. (Original Post) boston bean Mar 2017 OP
Now ICE is hanging around schools? LisaM Mar 2017 #1
That's actually been a tactic for awhile, iirc Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #7
State sponsored child abuse elmac Mar 2017 #9
Hey, it isn't just ICE cannabis_flower Mar 2017 #15
Blame Trump, his minions, and the deplorables who voted for him. nt raccoon Mar 2017 #2
It's just so cruel. redwitch Mar 2017 #3
The utter lack of humanity in the "family values" hypocrites enrages me. Moostache Mar 2017 #4
I hope this gets played for all of American to see Chakaconcarne Mar 2017 #5
the American Gestapo strike again. Cruel, jack-booted thugs nt geek tragedy Mar 2017 #6
And how is this different than the roundups of Jews, gays, Catholics and notdarkyet Mar 2017 #8
We're all from "here" ymetca Mar 2017 #10
Yeah, we can all dream... El Mimbreno Mar 2017 #16
Some of the comments to this ashling Mar 2017 #11
Gotta get rid of those "bad hombres" first LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2017 #12
ICE has a Nazi problem. They need to be fully cleaned out. byronius Mar 2017 #13
Apparently so. Ligyron Mar 2017 #17
Hmmmm.... hunter Mar 2017 #19
... Cha Mar 2017 #14
Call your Sens/Rep and tell them to confront Kelly - ICE actions do not follow American values sharedvalues Mar 2017 #18
It does enrage those who actually have any humanity Bettie Mar 2017 #20
What does the school do? ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #21
This is standard under Obama SOP grantcart Mar 2017 #22
he had a deportation order from 2014.....Trump was still just a punchline frankieallen Mar 2017 #23
 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
9. State sponsored child abuse
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:59 PM
Mar 2017

Traumatizing children, PTSD and we are paying for it and we, as a country, will pay dearly for it some day and it won't be good. We are the new evil empire.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
15. Hey, it isn't just ICE
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:02 PM
Mar 2017

DEA, local police storm into houses with children and terrorize the whole family and sometimes it isn't even the right house. In fact people have been killed "accidentally". In my opinion that people who die in drug raids didn't die accidentally, and if they went to the wrong house it is at the least, negligent homicide.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
3. It's just so cruel.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:08 PM
Mar 2017

I watched the faces of the immigrants going in and out of Homeland Sec. bldg the other day while rallying in support of a young mom with a 6 and 12 year old who were born here. These people are so vulnerable and my heart is breaking for them. Every person looked terrified. It was really stomach churning.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. The utter lack of humanity in the "family values" hypocrites enrages me.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:16 PM
Mar 2017

I am heart-broken for that poor child and that family.

This is and always has been a nation AND a continent of immigrants....NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE is "from here"...even the 'Native Americans' came over from Asia and Africa and we all know that European explorers were not from here either.

This irrational and insane hatred and oppression of immigrants is disgusting and makes me sad to be "american" if that's what it means to belong to this nation going forward.

There is a solution to this problem, but trying every stupid, hateful and bigoted mistake first only ensures more scenes like that. I wish I could get that horrifying wailing onto a audio loop that could be blared through Trump's head every night for 6-8 hours on end...

Chakaconcarne

(2,455 posts)
5. I hope this gets played for all of American to see
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:47 PM
Mar 2017

Fucking pathetic mother fuckers!

How do these officers do this and feel good at the end of the day?

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
8. And how is this different than the roundups of Jews, gays, Catholics and
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:45 PM
Mar 2017

Others in nazi Germany, Poland etc. they were slave labor and that's what they want to do to these immigrants. I read on MJ an article that some of the private prisons that were deemed ddeplorable and people died in, them are being reopened, because they need the rooms, plus renting jail cells. That's how many people they are going to round up. God I'm just so disgusted.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
10. We're all from "here"
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:02 PM
Mar 2017

No one is "illegal" to exist anywhere. Borders. Walls. Flags. Nationalism. Corporatism. Religious cultism. We just made these things up. None of them are "real". They are all imaginary constructs with the specific purpose of exclusion, oppression and enslavement.

That is the sad, sad, truth. That's why I say it would be smarter for us to simply declare everyone on this planet a "global citizen" and be done with it. It's the only way we're ever going to defeat the ruling 1%, carving us all up into "human resources" to be ruthlessly exploited for the "cause of {fill in the blank}".

They want a "prison planet" of War, Hate and Fear.
We want a Free Floating Stateless Orb of Peace, Love and Mercy.

El Mimbreno

(777 posts)
16. Yeah, we can all dream...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:04 PM
Mar 2017

and then reality rears its ugly rear. But we still dream and we still try for whatever we can accomplish right now.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
13. ICE has a Nazi problem. They need to be fully cleaned out.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:42 PM
Mar 2017

Anyone with racist subcurrents should not serve in that role.

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
20. It does enrage those who actually have any humanity
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:15 AM
Mar 2017

sadly, the majority of people who voted in our current mess had theirs fully removed through watching Faux "News".

It makes me both angry and sad. And it makes me feel like there will be no healing the rift between us and them. Ever.

People who think this is OK or good are simply not people with whom I wish to associate.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. What does the school do?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:39 AM
Mar 2017

What would you do if you were a principal and a 13 year old student came into your office to tell you her father had been arrested in the school parking lot?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
22. This is standard under Obama SOP
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:46 AM
Mar 2017

Felony DUI convictions triggered deportation orders as a legitimate criminal conviction.

When I lived overseas legally I made sure that I respected every law of that country. I have a son in law who is undocumented but can work legally here under a Order of Protection under Obama. He will not drink and drive, will not ride in a car where the driver has had a drink nor will he walk in a cross walk that has a orange blinking light. He educates himself on every law and follows the law at all times. His brother did not and is now in Costa Rica.

If someone is living here and knows that they are illegal then goes out and drinks and drive then they are asking for everything that is coming to them, in my opinion. We have had two very close family friends (from different families) killed by drunk drivers so I consider DUIs a serious crime.

I have seen children of undocumented aliens on TV in tears proclaiming how good their father was and that there was no reason for their deportation only to research and find out that their fathers (like this one) had felony DUIs. The rule that a DUI felony conviction will get you deported is very well known among the migrant community so here is my question: How good a father can you be when you carelessly flaunt a law that is well know to be a deportable offense, for the sake of your children couldn't you forsake drinking or alternatively for the sake of your children couldn't you call a taxi?

From the article:



Romulo Avelica-Gonzalez was arrested Tuesday morning for having a 2009 DUI conviction and an outstanding deportation order from 2014, according to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Under Obama-era directives, ICE focused mainly on criminals and those who posed a threat to public safety


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