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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:14 PM Mar 2017

Another Russian...# 8...just died.

Alex Oronov, organizer of Russia-Ukraine blackmail plan sent to Donald Trump, dies suspiciously

Yet another key figure in the Trump-Russia scandal has suddenly dropped dead. A meeting was organized between Donald Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen, Russian mafia figure Felix Sater, and Ukrainian traitor Andrii Artemenko. They crafted a Kremlin-backed plan which involved Trump using Russian blackmail to oust the president of the Ukraine. That plan was delivered to Michael Flynn’s just before he resigned. The meeting was organized by Alex Oronov – and now he’s dead.

Alex Oronov was the father in law of Michael Cohen’s brother, making them extended family.
Oronov did business in the Ukraine and was connected to Artemenko. It was Artemenko who angrily announced today in an extended Russian-language rant on his Facebook page that Oronov has died. And while he doesn’t say specifically how Oronov died, he directly blames the New York Times article which first exposed the secret plan for causing his death. In other words, he’s vaguely suggesting that Oronov was murdered (perhaps by Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin) as a result of having been publicly exposed.

Talking Points Memo has more details on the death of Alex Oronov, who died two days ago. This makes him at least the fourth Trump-Russia conspirator to die during the scandal. In all, seven prominent Russian operatives have died since the scandal began. Palmer Report has been documenting a running list.

Sergei Krivov died at the Russian consulate in New York on election day with his skull bashed in. Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB agent who contributed intel to the Trump-Russia dossier, was found dead in the back of a car. Sergei Mikhailov, another Russian intel agent, was dragged out of a meeting with a bag on his head.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/alex-oronov-organizer-russia-ukraine-blackmail-plan-sent-donald-trump-dropped-dead/1785/

**** See our full list of Russian operatives who have died during the Trump-Russia scandal for the full rundown.
https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/meet-seven-russian-operatives-dropped-dead-since-donald-trump-russia-dossier/1613/
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Another Russian...# 8...just died. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 OP
Suddenly dropped dead. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #1
In the DailyKOS too. I just read that. Holy Cow this is getting deep!!! ffr Mar 2017 #2
Maybe. But google's "news" search does not turn up Hortensis Mar 2017 #35
Damn. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #3
Would you believe.....he lived in Trump's building... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #26
Nooo! littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #28
Oh, come on! This is what you would expect in a cheap spy thriller. Eugene Mar 2017 #4
And the Cons play on. Sad. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #5
I'm Thinking Trump And His Team Are Changing Their..... global1 Mar 2017 #6
хорошего дня jimlup Mar 2017 #7
This is what Google gave me: Ilsa Mar 2017 #8
Second half Liberalagogo Mar 2017 #13
The second half is transliteration Aviation Pro Mar 2017 #17
If you can read this yourself , please translate it for us. raccoon Mar 2017 #31
I can't jimlup Mar 2017 #39
Wonder if Donnie is getting a bit Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #9
6 of them since November dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #12
Not many Board Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #14
I have not run across anything from today about that dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #21
Four of the dead named in the Steele dossier; would tend to confirm yardwork Mar 2017 #33
Kick and Rec Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #10
When this moves to the US ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #11
Joseph McCarthy tiptonic Mar 2017 #15
And Tail-gunner Joe's lawyer, Roy Cohn!! longship Mar 2017 #18
So---it may zentrum Mar 2017 #16
At the same time.... Grammy23 Mar 2017 #19
I have read that Bannon, Priebus, etc flew down this afternoon. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #23
Yeah--the financial cost is no joke.... zentrum Mar 2017 #30
The U.S. shouldn't keep paying to fly everyone to florida. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #34
I like this.... blue sky at night Mar 2017 #20
I like that he sums up in 4 paragraphs, cites sources, dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #25
Artemenko has to be looking over his shoulder these days. When will one of 'em spill the beans? NBachers Mar 2017 #22
it's the Clapton montage from the end of Wiseguys. nt Abu Pepe Mar 2017 #24
They need to get safer jobs, Mendocino Mar 2017 #27
KNR Lucinda Mar 2017 #29
Rachel: "We've never run the russian operating system on our hardware before." lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #32
They can't, because blackmail. GreenEyedLefty Mar 2017 #36
republicans in ecstasy Achilleaze Mar 2017 #37
This makes 10 Botany Mar 2017 #38
A bit off topic but trixie2 Mar 2017 #40
Wow...that is fascinating. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #41

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Maybe. But google's "news" search does not turn up
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:47 AM
Mar 2017

a single story that meets its "news" criteria. Yet.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
26. Would you believe.....he lived in Trump's building...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:53 AM
Mar 2017

If I had a dollar for every weird co-incidence in this Russian plot.....

Eugene

(61,939 posts)
4. Oh, come on! This is what you would expect in a cheap spy thriller.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:23 PM
Mar 2017

Prominent people connected to Putin or Russia are dropping like flies.
Please show a little finesse, Vlad.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
7. хорошего дня
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:28 PM
Mar 2017


Мы все лучше начать учиться говорить по-русски. Путин теперь наш диктатор. Trump лижет его сапоги.
My vse luchshe nachat' uchit'sya govorit' po-russki. Putin teper' nash diktator. Trump lizhet yego sapogi.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
8. This is what Google gave me:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:42 PM
Mar 2017

have a nice day
We better start learning to speak in Russian. Putin now our dictator. Trump licking his boots.

It wouldn't translate the second half.

raccoon

(31,119 posts)
31. If you can read this yourself , please translate it for us.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 07:57 AM
Mar 2017

The vast majority of people on here can't read Russian.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
39. I can't
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 10:46 AM
Mar 2017

I posted in Russian google translation for fun. I expected some would google translate it back. My strategy worked and a fun time was had by most.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Wonder if Donnie is getting a bit
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:47 PM
Mar 2017

nervous. His Pal Vald is removing chess pieces off the World Chess Board. Eight so far.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. 6 of them since November
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:56 PM
Mar 2017

Four of the six dead Russian diplomats are named in Steele’s Trump Dossier.

Not even John LeCarre would try to pen a co-incidence such as that.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Not many Board
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:10 AM
Mar 2017

Pieces left before Check Mate. Is it true Carter Page did a blab job on a Network Today?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. I have not run across anything from today about that
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

but I also do not have tv, so could have missed it.
i know he was babbling to Anderson Cooper last Friday, I even saw the clip online and it was cringe worthy.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
11. When this moves to the US
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:53 PM
Mar 2017

and some senators start dropping or Bannon or whoever, what are we going to do? It doesn't even have to be on American soil. It could easily happen when a senator goes abroad.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
16. So---it may
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:12 AM
Mar 2017

.....be impossible to ever get to the bottom of this. They key players will be either dead or too terrified to speak. This is quite a warning to send to those who know something.

Grammy23

(5,812 posts)
19. At the same time....
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:33 AM
Mar 2017

It sends a not so subtle message to tRump and his gang to keep up the front. Don't give an inch. So they never forget who they got in bed with. And Putin plays for keeps. Wonder who else besides Sessions flew down to Mar-a-Lago to huddle with tRump tonight?? Inquiring minds want to know. Can't trust their phones.. ..gotta do a face to face meeting for this. How much has this cost the tax payers just in transportation costs??

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. I have read that Bannon, Priebus, etc flew down this afternoon.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:06 AM
Mar 2017

Trump was pissed at them in am, made them stay at WH while his lawyer tries to find out who ordered the FISA wiretap..
so, now, the lawyer has just violated a law, say some.

As to cost...$3 million for every trip down to MarLego, where he golfs every day.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
30. Yeah--the financial cost is no joke....
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:18 AM
Mar 2017

.....considering the slashed programs that 45 wants to do.

Reminds me of the expense of those endless Benghazi hearings....

lindysalsagal

(20,727 posts)
34. The U.S. shouldn't keep paying to fly everyone to florida.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:43 AM
Mar 2017

Hello! That's why it's the white house and the capital in our own D.C.

WTF? When will the GOP decide this has got to stop?

blue sky at night

(3,242 posts)
20. I like this....
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:55 AM
Mar 2017

Palmer Report...I can actually look at it without getting sick to my stomach from mega photos of the shit stain.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. I like that he sums up in 4 paragraphs, cites sources,
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:31 AM
Mar 2017

and has 3-4 stories popping up a day, so I leave his page open and just re-fresh every couple hours.

lindysalsagal

(20,727 posts)
32. Rachel: "We've never run the russian operating system on our hardware before."
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:38 AM
Mar 2017

Last friday. Holy crap, Batman.

I can't believe we're suddenly a russian city. When will the GOP decide enough is enough?

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
36. They can't, because blackmail.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:50 AM
Mar 2017

The corruption runs deep, I'm afraid.

Edited to add: Remember, Russians hacked the RNC email server too. They have soooo much information.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
37. republicans in ecstasy
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:34 AM
Mar 2017

dead russians will tell no tales about the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief and his cabal of repub-russian cronies.

Botany

(70,576 posts)
38. This makes 10
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 10:06 AM
Mar 2017

There are actually 9 dead Russians in the last 2 months.

These nine Russians have either been murdered, died suddenly or vanished into the depths of the Lubyanka prison in the last two months
1: Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s Ambassador to the UN. officially of a heart attack. Feb 20, 2017.

2: Sergei Krivov, employee of Russian consulate in NY. Officially of heart attack despite his skull having been bashed in. May have fallen from consulate roof. Feb. 15, 2017

3, 4, 5: Kaspersky employee Ruslan Stoyanov and FSB officers who specialised in cyber security, Sergei Mikhailov and Dmitry Dokuchayev. Sergei Mikhailov were charged with treason. Mikhailov was dragged out of a meeting with a bag over his head, and is now now almost certainly dead. Odds are the other two gentlemen followed close behind. Jan 23, 2017

6: Andrey Melanin, Russian Consul in Greece was found dead in his Athens apartment. Jan 9, 2017

7: Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB General who had helped Chris Steele assemble the infamous dossier. Found dead in the trunk of his car in Moscow. Dec. 26, 2016

8. Andrey Karlov, Russian Ambassador to Turkey, murdered on live television. Dec. 20 2016

9. Petr Polshikov Russian diplomat, was found shot to death in Moscow. Dec. 20, 2016 (just after Karlov's murder).


Dead men tell no tales.

trixie2

(905 posts)
40. A bit off topic but
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:22 AM
Mar 2017

I have been following a story for years now about Russian style of "justice". I think the story bodes well in today's topics of conversation concerning Trump and Russia

Look at this story.

This story, I know not usually a credible source, has pics and more of what happened that day.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Wow...that is fascinating.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:08 PM
Mar 2017

Reminds me of the JP Morgan banker's deaths which all happened in a cluster, several of them from falling off a building.
and now THESE guys, 2 of whom died by falling in front of a subway car?? WAYYYY too co-incidence.

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